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Silver Surfer
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 Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: How Satan Deceives Christians ....So Easily |
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#1.) The 1st reason Christians are so easily deceived by satan's suggestions, is lack of intense Bible study.
AND, that is the ONLY way to be Saved !
James 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
#2.) Christians are so easily deceived is because the do not accept every word written in the Bible.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Oh sure, they accept some things, but reject what they don't want to practice doing in their daily lives.
Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say ?
Romans 6:16 is what determines whether a person gets eternal Life, or not........
Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness ?
EVERYTHING hangs on Obedience !
Let's look at what Ephesians 2:8-10 says......
2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Should we leave out verse 10....because we don't like what it says ?
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FFT
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| Silver Surfer wrote: | #1.) The 1st reason Christians are so easily deceived by satan's suggestions, is lack of intense Bible study.
AND, that is the ONLY way to be Saved ! |
Doing this was one of the major elements to my turning away from Christianity.
| Silver Surfer wrote: | #2.) Christians are so easily deceived is because the do not accept every word written in the Bible.
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Oh sure, they accept some things, but reject what they don't want to practice doing in their daily lives. |
Everyone does this.
Exodus 35:1 And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them.
35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
2 Chronicles 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Deuteronomy 17:2If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
17:7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.
You reject what you don't want to practice and it's obvious--if you didn't, you'd be in prison and unable to post.
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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You know how Moses went up into the mountain to hear the words of the Lord, and the people were not allowed to come close because they were afraid they would be destroyed?
I was just reading the first verses of Matthew chapter 5, concerning the sermon on the mount and the beautitudes..
Look where the people are and who is teaching them the law..so cool!
Mat 5:1 ¶ And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:
Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
I'm wondering if the first set of commandments that God wrote with his finger.. which should have been engraved in their hearts yet were destroyed and thrown down by Moses are those words that follow.
1- Mat 5:3 Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
2- Mat 5:4 Blessed [are] they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
3- Mat 5:5 Blessed [are] the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
4- Mat 5:6 Blessed [are] they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
5- Mat 5:7 Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
6- Mat 5:8 Blessed [are] the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
7- Mat 5:9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
8- Mat 5:10 Blessed [are] they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
9- Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
10- Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Exodus 35:1 And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them.
Mat 5:13 ¶ Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
If the salt has lost it's savour and is good for nothing it is cast out..
Mat 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
did the salt lose it's savour?
James 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
engrafted:
emphytos
1) inborn, implanted by nature, implanted by others instruction
The word which we receive is that which is implanted in the heart and not in stone.
Jam 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth [therein], he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
what is this perfect law of liberty?
hugs
lone
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Zathrus
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| lone-traveler wrote: | | I'm wondering if the first set of commandments that God wrote with his finger.. which should have been engraved in their hearts yet were destroyed and thrown down by Moses are those words that follow. |
This is a great point, Lone. The purpose of the law was to show the people of Israel who their savior was. So many missed it because to them it was commandments engraved in stone, not a revelation of Jesus Christ. But these ones who went to hear Jesus were doing what the law truly says to do - hear Him.
Great comparison that you made too - at Mt Sinai the people feared going up to the presence of the Lord. But those who were humble of heart gladly went up to the mountain to be with Jesus and hear Him.
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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I set before thee this day..
Deu 30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
Hbr 3:15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
what if the sermon on the mount was given as commandments such as:
1- Mat 5:3 Thou shalt Bless the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
2- Mat 5:4 Thou shalt Bless those that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
3- Mat 5:5 Thou shalt Bless the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
4- Mat 5:6 Thou shalt Bless those which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
5- Mat 5:7 Thou shalt Bless the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
6- Mat 5:8 Thou shalt Bless the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
7- Mat 5:9 Thou shalt Bless the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
8- Mat 5:10 Thou shalt Bless those which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
9- Mat 5:11 Thou shalt be Blessed, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
10- Mat 5:12 Thou shalt Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Deu 28:2 And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.
 
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lone
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| FFT wrote: | | Silver Surfer wrote: | #1.) The 1st reason Christians are so easily deceived by satan's suggestions, is lack of intense Bible study.
AND, that is the ONLY way to be Saved ! |
Doing this was one of the major elements to my turning away from Christianity. |
Then why are you here ?
To help satan, in his WAR against God ?
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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FFT
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| Silver Surfer wrote: | | Then why are you here ? |
Because I enjoy it. Why are you here?
| Silver Surfer wrote: | | To help satan, in his WAR against God ? |
Man. I love it when people say this sort of thing.
How can anything possibly manage a "war against God" and actually be any sort of risk? This is God we're talking about here. To claim that there is any threat to Him is to say that God is not omnipotent.
| Silver Surfer wrote: | | Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. |
See, even this doesn't support the idea that "satan" is waging war against God.
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JonMarie
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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FFT writes:
| Quote: | | Doing this was one of the major elements to my turning away from Christianity. |
Christianity in what sense?
2 Tim 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. |
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JonMarie
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what well known preacher from ages past made the following statement (this is a loose paraphrase)
mans relationship with God can be directly determined by three things
1. amount of time spent in the scriptures
2. amount of time spent in fervent prayer
3. amount of time spent in meditation |
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JonMarie
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| SS, I enjoy your posts |
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FFT
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| JonMarie wrote: | | Christianity in what sense? |
In that I basically became an atheist after studying the Bible.
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JonMarie
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FFT, the bible was written by the power of the Holy Spirit and can only be understood by the power of the Holy Spirit. If you truly studied it, you should at least know that.
1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
If you decide not to believe in gravity, does that make it not real? |
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| JonMarie wrote: | Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
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How many people can find in the Bible, the definition of what Righteousness is ?
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Whose Silver?
The Lord's or our own?
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| lone-traveler wrote: | Whose Silver?
The Lord's or our own?
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Well, since the Bible says that our own righteousness is as filthy rags, then I guess we have none of our own that is worth anything of value.
To me, the only thing I can rely on is what the Bible says.
And so, it is the Bible's definition of Righteousness that is the only thing I value.
The same for the definition of the word: Love.
As only the Bible can give me the correct definition of what Love, truely is.
I find that too many people in the Christiaan world throw around words that they have no true understanding of how God defines them.
And only by God's definition of certain words will anyone ever make into the Kingdom of God.
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