Water in space...

HeKkLeR · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: Water in space...

I read somewhere in a thread, where someone had asked the question:

"Is there water in space?"
It is a very good question, that I think most people on earth ask. Well, the the simplist answer for anyone that would ask that question, would most assuredly be:

a lot

Genesis 1:6-8

Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

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Heaven

So, if anyone is interested, and would like to discuss the implications of this very simple fact, or the fact itself, any and all comments would be greatly appreciated. Very Happy

45degreeN · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:32 am Post subject:

Water is seen in the form of ices and as long as it is space it will remain ice.

P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: Re: Water in space...

Niall · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Water in space...

P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: Re: Water in space...

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:28 am Post subject:

Easton's Bible Dictionary
Firmament
from the Vulgate firmamentum, which is used as the translation of the Hebrew _raki'a_. This word means simply "expansion." It denotes the space or expanse like an arch appearing immediately above us. They who rendered _raki'a_ by firmamentum regarded it as a solid body. The language of Scripture is not scientific but popular, and hence we read of the sun rising and setting, and also here the use of this particular word. It is plain that it was used to denote solidity as well as expansion. It formed a division between the waters above and the waters below ( Gen 1:7). The _raki'a_ supported the upper reservoir ( Psa 148:4). It was the support also of the heavenly bodies ( Gen 1:14), and is spoken of as having "windows" and "doors" ( Gen 7:11; Isa 24:18; Mal 3:10) through which the rain and snow might descend.

P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:54 am Post subject:

Thanks lone!

HeKkLeR · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject:

HeKkLeR · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Water in space...

HeKkLeR · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject:

Thanks Lone, for that information. Very Happy

HeKkLeR · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject:

P#, do you know what a heliosphere or heliopause are?

I know how you love science and all. Very Happy

HeKkLeR · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:

I almost missed this question. Sorry. Embarassed

lone-traveler · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:26 am Post subject:

I still believe it's spiritual..

In the beginning God created the heavens ( the spiritual realm), and the earth (the physical realm).
And the earth was without form and void (no spiritual knowledge, no wisdom, just an empty vessel).
and darkness was upon the face of the earth..(spiritual darkness)..no knowledge of Light and truth.

The waters above being God's thoughts, the waters beneath being man's thoughts..and we meet together..God thoughts and man's thoughts in the firmament..in the middle.

If you consider the earth as works without faith..the works are empty and void.
If you consider the heavens as faith without works..you have no proof of faiths existence.
So the heavens (faith) and the earth (works) come together in the firmament..in the middle ground.

The waters also represent peoples, nations, and tongues.
And the upper waters can represent spiritual leaders such as angels or apostles or disciples..the whole assembly of the heavens (faith) host.
And the lower waters can represent those who are spiritually dead or are without knowledge of God.

If the earth was without form and void..before the Spirit of God moved upon the face of it..
It would be like God hovering over mankind..and seeing it as devoid and empty of God, and God breathing upon it his spirit.

The earth waters recycles itself doesn't it? The waters in the clouds come from the waters in the earth. They are "caught up" to heaven and then they "rain down" on us once again.

In the garden of Eden there was a "mist" that rose up from the earth..I believe this refers to the "firstfruits", those who called upon God. And when God rained down in the days of Noah, God rained down his spirit and it flooded the earth and killed the evil in it..washed it away.
But Noah was caught in the firmament..in the middle. The rains falling and the seas rising. Where we meet Jesus in the air. The place where earthy thoughts and spiritual thoughts..were works and faith combine.

Either way, you can look at it from a scientific or a spiritual point of view. They both make sense to me.
But I tend to read it as a spiritual application because the bible says God's word IS spiritual and so that's how I look at it. Remembering that those things that were written aforetime are as "shadows" and for our instruction for living in the spirit and not in the flesh.

And by observing the physical applications we can understand the spiritual truth behind them.

just my two cents..
hugs
lone

HeKkLeR · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:55 am Post subject:

Genesis 7:11-12

on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.

45degreeN · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:23 am Post subject:

Context Hekkler context. The use of the term heavens there might just as well refer to the sky where rain normally falls and not space. The idea of "space" during the first century was hardly the same as we moderns think of it.