HOLY SPIRIT NOT GIVEN YET?

Yehushuan · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject:

In all fairness, JB the LXX does indeed write … εν αυτοις … which is Dative Plural Masculine.

But a big hearty CONGRATULATIONS to trettep who has now taken the bold step into using the tools of translation for the purposes of interpretation to defend a preconceived doctrine.

I thought you would NEVER get the hint.

Yehu

JB · Young Wolf Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 513

Sorry, double post. JimD is rubbing off on me.
Laughing

JB · Young Wolf Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 513

Yehu,
It was fun while it lasted. Debate isn't about being right or wrong but causing people to dig deeper into what they believe. I think that took place here. Abstract Biblical thought isn't wrong, until error becomes conviction.

Now, I wonder how the Bible verses the Word of God debate is going?

JB #evil

HeKkLeR · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject:

JB · Young Wolf Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 513

Yehu,
You said,

"the LXX In all fairness, JB the LXX does indeed write … εν αυτοις … which is Dative Plural Masculine."

Yea I found two difficult texts, i in the Old Testament and another in the New. But it was fun.

Yehushuan · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject:

JB,

Just don't forget that the LXX probably mistranslated the Hebrew in that section. But as I've said before, I'm smart enough to know I don't do Hebrew. That's the department down the hall.

Yehu

JB · Young Wolf Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 513

Yehu,
I think you are referring to Isaiah 63:11.

Yehu said "Just don't forget that the LXX probably mistranslated the Hebrew in that section."

Here it what I found.

qereb {keh'-reb}
Usage in the KJV:
among 76, midst 73, within 24, inwards 22, in 6, misc 26

This word was used as in only six times in the Old Testament. 76 times among and 73 in their midst.
I still feel strongly about my position on the Holy Spirit. I would quote 1 John but that probably isn't a good idea.

I am very confident on my position on this one.

JB

HeKkLeR · Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:24 am Post subject:

JonMarie · Rattlesnake Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 440 Location: Pa.

excuse me, what is the LXX?

JB · Young Wolf Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 513

JonMarie,

The LXX is A Greek translation of the Old and New Testament ans is believed to be the oldest existing Biblical writings in existence.

JB

JonMarie · Rattlesnake Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 440 Location: Pa.

Thanks JB, I will check it out!

45degreeN · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:12 am Post subject:

Actually the LXX is only what we know of the Old testament and doesn't include any of the New Testament. The LXX was what the Jews had in 1st century Judea, and was quoted word for word by Jesus.

JB · Young Wolf Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 513

45,
You said:
Actually the LXX is only what we know of the Old testament and doesn't include any of the New Testament.

That is correct. I have the complete Old Testament in Greek and New testament In Greek. I Mis spoke. Thanks for the correction.

JB