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P1234567890
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 Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: Poll: Who here believes in evolution? |
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I'd like to do a poll on who here believes in evolution and who doesn't. I'm not sure that the polling mechanism is working, so we'll do this the old fashioned way by posting our answers.
I'll try to keep this as simple as possible by just asking a yes/no question:
Did humans evolve from lower primates, yes or no?
I'll start things off by casting my vote: YES!
Edit: Changed the wording of the poll question to avoid confusion.
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Pete
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| NO! Otherwise I'd have to believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Clause, and even Atheism. I hope that last one doesn't derail your survey. |
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ragman13
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No
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45degreeN
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Micro evolution without a doubt my macro evolution no way.
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Bouncer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Poll: Who here believes in evolution? |
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| P1234567890 wrote: | I'd like to do a poll on who here believes in evolution and who doesn't. I'm not sure that the polling mechanism is working, so we'll do this the old fashioned way by posting our answers.
I'll try to keep this as simple as possible by just asking a yes/no question:
Do you believe that humans evolved from lower primates?
I'll start things off by casting my vote: YES! |
I vote no. I accept the ToE as the best known explanation for the data. But I don't Believe in it. If a better explanation becomes known then the ToE will just be another item in the dustbin of scientific history.
BTW: I do NOT believe criticism of an established scientific discipline constitutes an explanation of anything except the speaker's own ignorance.
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Poll: Who here believes in evolution? |
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| Bouncer wrote: |
I vote no. I accept the ToE as the best known explanation for the data. But I don't Believe in it.
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I think you're getting too semantic on me. I'm not putting any special meaning into the word 'believe'. I just want to find out what people think.
Put it this way: A gun is put to your head by someone who *definitely* knows the answer, and they ask you if humans evolved from lower primates. If you get the answer right, then you live, and if you get the answer wrong, then you die. What do you say?
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If a better explanation becomes known then the ToE will just be another item in the dustbin of scientific history.
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Sure, I agree. But that's true of any scientific theory.
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RevJP
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I echo 45's answer (without the typo  )
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Pondering
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FFT
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| Pondering wrote: | | short answer: Yes |
Yeah, plus what Bouncer said.
I think it muddies the waters to claim that it's about belief. Even if you don't mean it in the same way that someone can believe in God, that's what a lot of people will assume.
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P1234567890
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| FFT wrote: | | Pondering wrote: | | short answer: Yes |
Yeah, plus what Bouncer said.
I think it muddies the waters to claim that it's about belief. Even if you don't mean it in the same way that someone can believe in God, that's what a lot of people will assume. |
Point taken. Let me rephrase my original question:
Did humans evolve from lower primates, yes or no?
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"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
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Pete
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Did humans evolve from lower primates, yes or no? |
Not the remotest possibility. |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Not the remotest possibility. |
Thank you Pete. Your votes have been tabulated.
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"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Poll: Who here believes in evolution? |
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| Bouncer wrote: |
I vote no. I accept the ToE as the best known explanation for the data. But I don't Believe in it. |
By the way, Bouncer, does the new wording of the poll question change your vote?
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"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
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PrysdieHeer!
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I think you know my answer!
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Dust
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To answer the OP question......No.
A primate is a beast.
| Quote: | 24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. |
Now I can see a primate evolving, perhaps, into other types of primates. Science does indicate that distance, enviroment, and/or certain adapted traits can lead to this sort of thing. Not to mention that this is obvious by simply observing the diversity in people.
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