Christian Atheists ?

P1234567890 · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:56 am Post subject:

This is the atheism forum. If you think that quoting scripture in here is going to make your point, then you're barking up the wrong tree.
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Silver Surfer · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:10 am Post subject:

P1234567890 · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:16 am Post subject:

PrysdieHeer! · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:08 am Post subject:

sithum

The problem with Goldbach's conjecture is that it involves addition. Statements involving addition are so hard to prove in general. If one could possibly map the addition statement to a general multiplication statement and then prove the new statement a proof may be more easily found.

For those of you who don't know Goldbach's conjecture it states that (as far as I remember anyhow): for every even integer N >= 4 there exists two primes which sum to that number.

i.e. we can see that for 10 we have the primes 7 and 3 (7+3 = 10)

the problem of course is to show it for all even integers greater than or equal to 4.

Of course the difficulty with the statement is that it must be proven in general for all even numbers... it is generally difficult to generalize a proof when one is dealing with addition.

In any case, if you want to pray for it, why not..
I'm an atheist, and I do deep breathing instead for relaxation.

About atheism: it is the absence of beleif in G-d. So, a Christian Atheist may be one who:

1) is interested in adopting attitudes similar to those of Jesus and
2) follows the ten commandments [including being kind to your neighbour] and
3) draws inspiration from the bible and
4) is open minded with respect to christian statements regarding spirituality...and
5) does not beleive in G-d.

does this make sense?

of course a Christian Atheist could replace the word G-d with 'love' and/or 'wisdom' and/or a 'love of learning' and/or 'the universe'...

Would Jesus himself have elected atheism if it was actually an option back when he was alive? He certainly seemed to detest the religious establishments of his day.. I wonder what he'd say about the current state of religious institutions and their role in society.. in any case, I would like to speculate on whether Jesus would have chosen atheism instead of theism to base his beleifs on if the 'atheist' option had been available at the time...

let me know,
thanks,
Dave.

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P1234567890 · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Christian Atheists ?

ShardikSon · Cobra Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 450 Location: Aux Arcs

What a fascinating thread!!!

I would like to offer some thoughts.

1. I always thought Evolution seemed to be a very intelligent design.

2. There is a mighty difference between accepting/rejecting the Word, and accepting/rejecting someone's interpretation of the Word.

3. Goldbach was right,and the proof is right in front of you, but to articulate the proof is almost as difficult as articulating proof that God is. You either know, or you don't.

4. Not all problems can be solved with math.

5. P, if you REALLY want that proof, you have to pray for it yourself. Ask and ye shall receive.

6. Don't take yourselves too seriously. Nobody else does.

7. Whether you believe in God, or not, He believes in you.

May God bless you all and may truth always be your blessing.
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P1234567890 · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject:

ShardikSon · Cobra Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 450 Location: Aux Arcs

P1234567890 · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject:

ShardikSon · Cobra Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 450 Location: Aux Arcs

Siam · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject:

So if your saying Jesus is a tool, (not really a very nice simile Shocked

) and that tool is, say, a hammer, than Christianity has been trying to cut through spiritual walls with it.

Wrong tool for the job!

And of course Christians who go to church are 83% in favor of believing that you don’t just find salvation/heaven/eternity through the convoluted message of the bible.

People are getting smarter and understand that dogmatic religious belief only adds to separatism and an ethos that includes the inability to love ones neighbor as ones self.

Most people go to church to socialize… at least that’s why I think they go to church?

I don’t see any sense in it when the Kingdom of God is within.

Put I do agree, it is an interesting topic but it has been established in the “Christianity is Atheisms” thread that Christians can not be Atheist. (Isn’t that right F.F.T Smile

)

Cheers.
Siam.
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