Pete
Grizzly Bear
Joined: 31 May 2006
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Location: Arlington Hts., Il. USA
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: |
And Paul then goes on to say who this Serpent represents:
2 Cor 4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
For the more dim witted, Paul makes this connection between the Serpent and the deceiving spirits (demons) who beguiled the believers of his time.
Moreover Jesus also makes this connection:
John 8
44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
"Murderer from the beginning" is a description that fits Satan alone and what the Serpent did in the Garden of Eden. His slanderous lies brought death to the entire human race. "From the beginning" can only be considered in the light mankind's beginning since there was nothing to murder before then, and the devil took the form of a serpent.
John the Revelator also makes this connection:
Re 12:9 -
The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Human reason serves us well here. There is only one enemy of mankind, and has shown a consistant character throughout the ages. The Serpent can be none other than the devil. |
The above description fits the devil well, and his whereabouts is easy to identify. He is alive and well, and sits on a throne in the Vatican. |
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Rocket
Kitten
Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 147
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
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So, you believe what a man wrote in His book? Good for you. My belief also involves a beloved Jewish Carpenter. Was He a carpenter? I believe the ancient words of discription were a 'worker with a hard substance'. I also believe that some translations in the Bible are false due to the men who interpreted it, but the basic concepts are true.
As for the reformation, I know there was one and I know the churchs came out of the Catholic church. You might try researching this a little more before you call me a liar. |
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