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saintmichaeldefendthem
Big Lion
Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 979
Location: Boise, Idaho
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| That's it! I'm opening up a thread on this. You asked for it. |
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Jacinth
Ferret
Joined: 28 Nov 2007
Posts: 119
Location: The Atlantic Coastal Plain
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| SMDT wrote: | | He gives new meaning to the phrase, "so much, yet so little." |
Now that was a good one, James, you witty fellow you!
Do you mind if I ask you why you are so interested in homosexuality and spanking? Does this have anything to do with your religious upbringing? If these questiosn offend, please let me know. |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
Big Lion
Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 979
Location: Boise, Idaho
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Jacinth!
I've already told you numerous times. It's not a matter of whether or not it offends me, it's a matter of you deviating from the purpose of this board. We're here to debate Biblical and religious topics. Period. If you want therapy or support groups, you've come to the wrong place. Either debate the issue or shutup! |
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Jacinth
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Joined: 28 Nov 2007
Posts: 119
Location: The Atlantic Coastal Plain
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| SMDT wrote: | | I've already told you numerous times. |
No, you never told me why you have such a keen interest in spanking and homosexuality. If you do not want to give us your reasons for taking such a vested interest, just let us know.
| Quote: | | It's not a matter of whether or not it offends me, it's a matter of you deviating from the purpose of this board. |
It was just a question, and I don't see how my question deviated from the purpose of the board. I was trying to contribute to the discussion by asking one of the main partipants a most relevant question.
| Quote: | | We're here to debate Biblical and religious topics. Period. |
Can't we also discuss our personal interest in these subjects?
| Quote: | | If you want therapy or support groups, you've come to the wrong place. |
I am looking for neither, silly. Why would you think that?
| Quote: | | Either debate the issue or shutup! |
Yes, master. I didn't realize you were so sensitive about this issue, master.  |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
Big Lion
Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 979
Location: Boise, Idaho
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| I'm through with this. I'm reporting you to the mods, Jacinth. You really have a mean streak in you. |
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atoz
Emperor of the Solar System
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 4189
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: |
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Sorry, sir, I don't buy your "you-love-you're-son-so-you-must-love-satan-too" argument. Nor do I buy your unbiblical anti-spanking argument. |
So Mike,
Will you buy the pro-spanking in pro-Love and anti-spanking in pro-Love from God?
When God hits you & chastises u with the rod of satan,
do you love the hot-rod,smile
do you love the hits and chastisements,
and
do you love God as the big hitter and chatiser?smile
It's that simple, guy,
and this simplistic!
Proverbs 12
1Whoso loveth instruction/correction/chastisement loveth knowledge:
but he that hateth reproof is brutish.
with Love for God as spanker,
for the spanks of God,
for what or who He spanks me with,
and for me as spanked,
atoz |
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atoz
Emperor of the Solar System
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 4189
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: | | I'm through with this. I'm reporting you to the mods, Jacinth. You really have a mean streak in you. |
Mike,
And while you are doing that,
please logically also turn yourself yourself in for calling whoever dunderheads and etc!smile
| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: |
...Many dunderheads, uncatechized and ill informed about Scripture and the nature of God, with gross understanding of love apart from justice, suggest that even Satan can be saved.
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Or, the rather,
consistently love dunderheads, love gays, love gay dunderheads and love dunderheaded gays,
and
then report Jacinth only for the mean streak of hating mean gays or mean dunderheads!smile
Right?
In the Golden Mean of Love for gays and dunderheads and meanies,
atoz
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atoz
Emperor of the Solar System
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 4189
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| mikeinsarasota wrote: |
.....this is just my opinuion, but you sound like a wannabe intillectual in high shcool or somthing. theres a coherent way to write things, and this isnt it. do you wish you were some deep, famous poet or somthing? |
Hmmmmm
Since that is your honest opinion,
and I don't want you lie about it,
then since I am a wannabe intellectual in HS or something or poet and incoherent to you,
then I agree with you!
So since I agree with you and you agree with me,
you are also me and I am also whatever you are!
right?smile
Not to mention that it also takes one to know one!
right?
So the key is whether we love ourselves as what you see me as,
or if we hate ourslevwes as what you see me as.
Now I love me as both what you see me as as and as what I also am.
That Love means that I don't have to be something to be loved:
I love myself to be something,
so that even when i am nothing, I am something: some kind of Lover of Xtian who is known by Love!
John 13:35.
So too for you if you lvoe u as what you see me as and as what you are.
Isn't that good?smile
The only problem is if you hate you as what you see me as, which is why you wd also hate me as what you see me as, IF you hate me as such.
So do you love or hate yourself as wanna be intellectuals in HS or as incoherent or a poet or as any words?
NB: You were able to make certain coherent conclusions from my incoherence!smile
hmmmmmmmm
In the Poetry of Love that makes poetry of all prose, and makes all prose into a rose of poetry,smile
and makes coherence out of incoherence,
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atoz
Emperor of the Solar System
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 4189
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Evee wrote: | Atoz,
You asked several things:
| atoz wrote: | Can we love winners while hating winning?
Can we love losers while hating losing or hating loss?
Can we love successors while hating succeeding.
Can we love failures while hating failing? |
Yes. It is possible to seperate the sin from the sinner. God does it all the time. He loves us yet we continue to disappoint Him & do things we shouldn't do.
That's what correction & discipline is about. It's about loving your children enough to try to keep them on the path of righteousness. If we didn't love them, we'd let them do whatever they wanted. |
Correct answers, Evee!
But what is the first sin if God loves you good and bad, just and unjust?
Matthew 5:44-45, 48
And re. that last sentence.
So do you think that if we let them do whatever they wanted, we wd not be loving them?
So when God lets the world that he loves do whatever they want,
he does not love them while they are doing whatever?
See what i am saying?
God's Love is unconditional:
So He lvoes us when He stops us from doing what we want
and
He loves us when he does let do what we want!
matthew 5:43-48
see?
Which is why there is that saying: Be careful what you wish for!---since God sometimes gives us what we want that is NOT good for us.
So can you see how you can also let your child do what he/she wants because you love her or him to teach her or him a lesson becaue you lvoe him or her?
Deuteronomy 1:
42And the LORD said unto me,
Say unto them.
Go not up, neither fight;
for I am not among you;
lest ye be smitten before your enemies.
43So I spake unto you;
and ye would not hear, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD,
and went presumptuously up into the hill.
44And the Amorites, which dwelt in that mountain, came out against you,
and chased you, as bees do,
and destroyed you in Seir, even unto Hormah.
Because of God's Love,
he can make the evil he allows us to get into when we do what we want in to good to teach us that it is NOT what we do that is wrong but our attitude of Hate in whatever we do!
Matthew 5:21-22. Gen 50:20. Romans 8:28.
U've heard that attitude is everything?
That's correct.
And the right attitude that is everything is God's Unconditional Love.
Attitude Is Everything
by Francie Baltazar-Schwartz
http://www.buildfreedom.com/attitude.htm
Hope that helps.
with me in Christ and Christ in me,
atoz |
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atoz
Emperor of the Solar System
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 4189
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| saintmichaeldefendthem wrote: |
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Mike,
Welcome to the board! I see you've met Atoz, our most loquatious member. He gives new meaning to the phrase, "so much, yet so little." But he means well.
I look forward to reading more of your posts, sir.
In the Sacred Heart of Christ,
James |
What a compliment, Mike!
U did dig deep for that one!smile
That's what that Festus told Paul in other words!:
Acts 26
1Then Agrippa said unto Paul,
Thou art permitted to speak for thyself.
Then Paul stretched forth the hand, and answered for himself:
And Paul spoke loquaciously for the next 23verses,
when
24 ....,
Festus said with a loud voice,
Paul,
thou art beside thyself;
much learning doth make thee mad.
In other words,
Paul, you speak so much but there is so little there!
Which was really a measure of their blindness because of them being blinded by Hatred for the words spoken or written!
You know,
blind men will always say that there is so little there even when there is so much right there!smile
Sorta like
'Water water everywhere,
And not a drop to drink!'
STC
Yet, Agrippa who heard the same words at the same time said:
28Then Agrippa said unto Paul,
Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.
hmmmmmmmmmm
So much there that A saw that he was nearly converted!
hmmmmmmmmm
So we see that people look at the same night sky,
and some see bars
while and where others see stars!
2 Corinthians 12:
15And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you [with endless Love], the less I be loved.
Thanx, Mike !smile
in God's Eternal Flow of Firey Love that gives so much even for so little simply because it has endless Love to burn, endless Love to flow, John 7:38
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atoz
Emperor of the Solar System
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| lone-traveler wrote: | thinkin to myself...
the brother hits the brother. Then the mother hits the brother for hitting the brother.
is then the hitting good or bad?
mother hit me for good for hitting my brother for bad.
hmm..
what if the brother hit the brother for good?
was it bad he got hit for hitting?
just thinkin |
lol!
awesome, lt!
So what our mothers shd have told us is:
I love hitting, I love me as hitter, love you as hitters and love your hitting,
but I do NOT want you to hit each other nor hit back,
and if you hit your bro for hitting you rather than coming to tell me,
I am going to hit you in Love!
But Mom,
is hitting so bad?
isn't hitting so bad?
No, hitting is NOt so bad---because I am going to hit you.
What is bad is if you disobey me when I tell you to NOT hit him and you do hit him!
And worse than that bad of hitting and disobeying me is if you hate me when you disobey me.
But even if you lvoe me and disobey me,
I am going to lvoe you and hit you in Love for disobeying me?
Compris?
story done.
And as they get to teens:
Don't hate your bros nor your friends,
love them,
but if they ever hit you,
you can decide to hit them back in Love
or in Love to not hit them back.
But wahtever you do or don't,
love it and the consequences/results of your action or inaction!
story done.
in Love,
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Ben Chalfant
German Shepherd
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 332
Location: Kansas
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm confused. Thanks Atoz!  |
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Ben Chalfant
German Shepherd
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 332
Location: Kansas
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I wanted to add that God is not the author of confusion. |
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Ben Chalfant
German Shepherd
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 332
Location: Kansas
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Good point, too, about his being loquacious. My 3 year old is also loquacious. Though much of her "talking" is hard to understand. More like babble. lol! |
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