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theseldomscene
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http://portal.tds.net/news.php?story=37532
| article wrote: | | "I'm ready. I have the moral strength, the physical strength and the will to continue with you at the helm until at least 2020," Chavez told supporters last week. "And if the strength continues with me, and God wills it, then I'll probably go on to 2027." |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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Following the example of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, live as long as you can, so your despotism can perpetuate for years to come.
Isn't there a reason God shortened our lives from 900 years to 120 years maximum? Oh, yes! It was an act of mercy so that one would not have to pay for centuries of sin....just decades.
Maybe Pat Robertson was on to something...a single assassin's bullet might make the world a better place.
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| what has he done that deserves an assassin's bullet?... |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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i know i may get slap for this but...
though i don't agree with everything he has done or the way he has done some of the things he has done...as far as leadership goes...and integrity...as of right now...
he is one of the best leaders in the world at the present moment in those two catagories...imo....
he may mess that up tomorrow...but right now...he is doing a splendid job for the most part...imo... |
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45degreeN
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| Honest people might disagree about how great this man is, but he is taking his country from a democracy into a dictatorship. |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: |
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i understand your concern 45...but if one looks at what needs to be done in that nation, it is not a work that can be accomplished by changing the gov every four or six years....
it is really a society of seperate classes...
take the milk situation for example....in the article it speaks of people complain because they can't get fresh milk....wel the reason they can't is because hugo put a price cap on it...so in response the dairy guys just quit producing it if they can't squeeze every penny they can from those who can afford it...
which will, when the situation gets rip enough, result in the state siezing control of the industry...
to many that sounds bad...but it is not...for then the end result will be...
for the first time in many of their lives...the poor children of the country will be able to drink fresh milk, and it won't be a privilege for the upper class only...
what is so bad about that?... |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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| Quote: | take the milk situation for example....in the article it speaks of people complain because they can't get fresh milk....wel the reason they can't is because hugo put a price cap on it...so in response the dairy guys just quit producing it if they can't squeeze every penny they can from those who can afford it...
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Squeezing every penny? Apparently you never took a course on economics, but price controls are like throwing a wrench in the system of supply and demand, and greed has nothing to do with this. Apparently you are reading a very circumscribed article....not the least bit objective. |
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theseldomscene
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| Quote: | | Squeezing every penny? |
yes that was what i said...
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Apparently you never took a course on economics |
aparently you are unaware of the situation...and apparantly you fail to se that is the plan...
| tss wrote: | which will, when the situation gets rip enough, result in the state siezing control of the industry...
to many that sounds bad...but it is not |
, | Quote: | | but price controls are like throwing a wrench in the system of supply and demand, and greed has nothing to do with this. |
yes greed has nothing to do with why hugo stopped the gred ...you are correct in that...the reason supply stopped is because they wanted to charge more then he would allow...
socialism is by far the best form of human gov...when properly balanced...
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free fall
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TSS IS A COMMIE!
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theseldomscene
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 ...thanks...i am not...
i just ask you to read while i went to the bathroom...i did not ask you to respond...  ... |
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theseldomscene
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that really bothers me...i should report you for calling me a name... ...i am not a commie...
i am not even political... |
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Nobby
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free fall, I know you thought you were being funny. Calling Tss the name. But your not!  Please don't call names! OK? |
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saintmichaeldefendthem
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Whether calling him a Red Commie or just simply a Socialist, both amount to the same. He promotes a system that has murdered millions, oppressed those who survived and kept them in abject poverty; all the while clinging to the oft uttered myth of communism working if only administered right.
There is no right way to administer a system that takes people's freedom and forces them into a controlled system "for their own good." To do that is evil, and those why tyrannize people will be cast alive into the eternal lake of fire where they will feel the undiluted wrath of God for ever and ever. Amen. |
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theseldomscene
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sheesh... ...it is not an evil system...it is only people who pervert it that make it evil...
there have been capitalist systems that have murdered people you know and has cast many into poverty, you are not saying that is evil...
and i said socialism is the best form of human gov when balanced properly(and i mean that) and no i am not supporting it because i don't support any worldly system if by support one means wishing for one...nor does being a socialist get one thrown into the lake of fire for crying out loud...man...please... (though the greed of capitalism might get one fried  )
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theseldomscene
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hugo lost the referendum by two percent...close...but not enough....but...
he has stated he will accept the voice of democracy, showing socialism can be democratic...but...
i bet he is not done yet... ... |
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