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TBax
King of the Jungle
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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 Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Dust,
You know quite well that rarndt01, holly, and TwoPutt haven't been here for quite some time.
I believe your sudden mass of postings are to push the proof of your blatant lie down further. 
You are a liar and you speak deception. 
1 Peter 3:10 For, “he that would love life and see good days, let him restrain his tongue from what is bad and [his] lips from speaking deception,
It was clear you lied. If you want to ignor that and cover it with a mass of false accusations and pretend you have integrity you are decieving yourself. 
The character you display is clear.  |
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Dust
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey TBax, if you are making reference to the 'A masterful deception - Satan's work of art' thread as originally started by Texas, I've not read your last response. Our discussion in that thread went as far as it needed to. I've left that thread, and have kicked the dust from my feet in the manner of Mark 6:11. |
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TBax
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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You know exactly what I am talking about.
Your deceptions aren't appreciated.
Perhaps you would like me to repost it here? So you can clearly see it.  |
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Dust
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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In order to get this thread back on track, I'll repost my lastest response dealing with the subject matter......
| Dust previously wrote: | lone-traveler wrote:
could we get back to the topic please?
rufus wrote:
Why do Jehovah's Witnesses Prohibit Voting in Elections?
It's part of the wily subterfuge of the JW organization (or perhaps more pointedly, the Spirit behind this organization). If in the eyes of it's members the JW organization can discount all other forms of government and authority, they will be viewed as the only real governing authority....thus giving the JW organization full authoritive control over the hearts and minds of it's members. All other outward reasonings cited by the JW's are just part of the ruse, and are ultimately for the subliminal-purpose/wily-subterfuge of total control. |
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TBax
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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I don't blame you for not wanting to face your lie. Yes, let's talk to people who haven't been here for some time, like rufus. 
I know what you are doing. It is pretty lame. |
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Dust
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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TBax, you don't know anything regarding me. You're not interested in the least. You're happy with your current condition. You're happy with the JW bible re-write. You're happy with the fact that from a position of claimed sole religious/spiritual authority, the JW's have made predictions of things that did not come to pass. I've exposed all these things to you, and more, yet you remain blissful in your belief.
*Shakes dust from feet* |
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Dust
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Now once again....
In order to get this thread back on track, I'll repost my lastest response dealing with the subject matter......
| Dust previously wrote: |
lone-traveler wrote:
could we get back to the topic please?
rufus wrote:
Why do Jehovah's Witnesses Prohibit Voting in Elections?
It's part of the wily subterfuge of the JW organization (or perhaps more pointedly, the Spirit behind this organization). If in the eyes of it's members the JW organization can discount all other forms of government and authority, they will be viewed as the only real governing authority....thus giving the JW organization full authoritive control over the hearts and minds of it's members. All other outward reasonings cited by the JW's are just part of the ruse, and are ultimately for the subliminal-purpose/wily-subterfuge of total control. |
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TBax
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Dust,
I have learned some things about you. I know you aren't interested in truth. You have used human philosophies and pagan writtings to interpret what the scriptures are saying. You reject facts and context so that your beliefs can be "true". You have proved to be most unreasonable. I now know you are willing to blatantly lie and proceed as though you did nothing wrong. You have exposed you! You are in no position to judge anything. |
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pastor2022
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Get this thread back on topic now. Thanks. God bless. |
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Zathrus
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| The dangers of necro-posting. |
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TBax
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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This topic has been at rest. Dusts new contribution here is a ploy, and another made up lie.
If we must get back on topic:
James 4:4 Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God. |
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Dust
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Topic: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses Prohibit Voting in Elections?
| TBax wrote: | If we must get back on topic:
James 4:4 Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God. |
Well enough then.
James addresses his letter to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad. These are a people who were no longer governing themselves as the nation of Israel, as they once had, but rather folks who were assimilated into various foreign nations/governments. It is not governmental order/orders that James 4:4 is addressing, but rather the values of the various cultures in-which the scattered tribes of Israel found themselves. James was/is warning them not to conform to cultural values that oppose the values God had given them through the Law.
Governmental issues are not addressed by James specifically, but considering the fact that these scattered folks are to be the salt of the earth (as it is written), they are to bring flavor to these various cultures....that is....the values of God's Law, which had been given to them as the chosen people, are to impact these various cultures. IMO, one way to accomplish this is by casting a vote....by salting the political/governmental arena with Christians and/or Christian values.
And thus the JW prohibition on voting is not a biblical concept, in fact, quite to the contrary! |
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TBax
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| Dust wrote: | | James addresses his letter to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad. |
The 12 tribes of spiritual Isreal, the Christian congregation. The nation of Isreal was still operating at that time. Plus the Christians were under whatever government in the country they lived in, like we are today.
| Dust wrote: | | Governmental issues are not addressed by James specifically |
I see being involved in politics is being involved in the world.
So did Jesus. He shows why it is futile to be involved in such.
John 14:30 I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me,
Satan is the ruler of the world in this system of things. To listen to men over God and Jesus is foolish.
The apostles understood this as well.
Acts 5:29 In answer Peter and the [other] apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men.
John 17:15 “I request you, not to take them out of the world, but to watch over them because of the wicked one. 16 They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.
(1 John 2:17) Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever.
That world that is passing away includes human governments. |
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Dust
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Dust wrote:
James addresses his letter to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad.
| TBax wrote: | | The 12 tribes of spiritual Isreal, the Christian congregation. The nation of Isreal was still operating at that time. Plus the Christians were under whatever government in the country they lived in, like we are today. |
James actually addresses the actual twelve tribes of actual Israel which were actually scattered abroad. I would agree that it is the intention of the Holy Spirit that this letter had/has actual application to the actual church (body-of-Christ) that too, was/is spread abroad. The message was preached to actual Jews first, and then to actual Gentiles.
James is not putting a prohibition on government involvment. In fact his letter makes reference to church administration/policy NOT national govenment administration/policy.....
James 2:2-4
2 For if a person comes into your congregation whose hands are adorned with gold rings and who is wearing splendid apparel, and also a poor [man] in shabby clothes comes in,3 And you pay special attention to the one who wears the splendid clothes and say to him, Sit here in this preferable seat! while you tell the poor [man], Stand there! or, Sit there on the floor at my feet!4 Are you not discriminating among your own and becoming critics and judges with wrong motives?
In this case, the world, having nothing to do with government, would dictate that special attention and honor be given to the rich man over the poor. Agreement with this, is the sort of friendship with the world that James 4:4 is referring (Preference for the rich man is the sort of thing Satan, from his position of rule, dictates to the world). This sort of thing can and does happen in various situations whether governmental, church, business, private gatherings, ect. The prohibition is against acting in this manner, not from participation in church, government, business, private gatherings, ect.
Thus the JW prohibition on voting is not a biblical concept, in fact, quite to the contrary, as Christians are to have an influence on the world! |
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TBax
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: |
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OOPS! Double post. Deleted here, contained on the next page.
Last edited by TBax on Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:20 am; edited 1 time in total |
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