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StElsewhere
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| FFT wrote: | | StElsewhere wrote: | | Gays have taken ..outright stole something that was God-Given and twisted it into something that should be despised in every quarter...the Rainbow... |
I knew it! I never read this thread until I saw it in the new post list, and wouldn't have had I not thought that perhaps you were referring to the rainbow—and there it is.
I'm curious as to why this is in the Christian Fellowship Forum. We do have a Homosexuality and the Bible forum, after all. |
Sherlock:...Is this not the sub-category of Moral Law? (or something to that effect)  |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: Re: What God Had Blessed Earth With Is Now An Abomination! |
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| atoz wrote: | Hi StElsewhere,
Thanx for being honest.
But as you already know, God wants us to be honest in Love or speak the truth in Love:
So do you love yourself as gay?
I ask that questiion because to speak the truth in Love to gays, you first have to love gays, and to love gays, you first have to love yourslef as one.
And would you love God if he were gay?
Do you have any conditions on your Love for God such as he can't be gay or he can't be a liar or he can't be wahtever?
Or, do you lvoe God unconditionally and so have NO conditions on your Love for God,.... you wd love Him no matter what?
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....You can call me a homophobe or intolerant...it matters not... |
So do you love yourself as intolerant?
I love myself as intolerant so I can love you as intolerant and show you that worse than being intolerant is hating being so; if I hated you as intolerant, I wd be intolerant of your intolerance and so be intolerent myself.
And do you love yourself as a homophobe?
in Love of you as tolerant, as a homophobe and as gay,
atoz |
Your feeble attempt at humor is sophomoric at best...and you have neither the capacity of speech nor any level of moral conviction... that could draw me into name calling with someone like you...but I digress...I made a statement of fact... which also happens to be the truth...and if you have difficulties with the facts and the truth ...who really has the problem? And no I am tolerant of thieves...God's rainbow was just that ...God's rainbow...It was his ...and now to even think about displaying such a sign is a sickening embarrassment |
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atoz
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: Re: What God Had Blessed Earth With Is Now An Abomination! |
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| StElsewhere wrote: |
Your feeble attempt at humor is sophomoric at best...and you have neither the capacity of speech nor any level of moral conviction... that could draw me into name calling with someone like you...but I digress...I made a statement of fact... which also happens to be the truth...and if you have difficulties with the facts and the truth ...who really has the problem? And no I am tolerant of thieves...God's rainbow was just that ...God's rainbow...It was his ...and now to even think about displaying such a sign is a sickening embarrassment |
atoz: thanx for your reply.
I thought that it was you who were calling yourself intolerant and a homophobe.
Did you mean that you are tolerant or not tolerant of thieves?
Remember that for me to hate thieves or to hate myself as a thief makes me a bigger thief since I am stealing LOVE, God's Holy Spirit of Mind, from myself and from others,
while the thieves are stealing a rainbow or money or whatever.
Romans 13:8
8Owe no man any thing, but to love one another:
for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Galatians 5:14
14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
in Love of being a fool and wise, which is what a sophomore or a morosophist is,
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| StElsewhere wrote: | | Sherlock:...Is this not the sub-category of Moral Law? (or something to that effect) |
No.
"This forum is for "Christian Fellowship & Worship of our Lord Jesus Christ. Treat each other with respect. On this forum it's not necessary to stay on a particular topic. Just follow where the Lord leads you! But do not argue!! You will get my attention!"
There is a section further down which is intended for discussion of homosexuality. |
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StElsewhere
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:24 am Post subject: Re: What God Had Blessed Earth With Is Now An Abomination! |
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| atoz wrote: | | StElsewhere wrote: |
Your feeble attempt at humor is sophomoric at best...and you have neither the capacity of speech nor any level of moral conviction... that could draw me into name calling with someone like you...but I digress...I made a statement of fact... which also happens to be the truth...and if you have difficulties with the facts and the truth ...who really has the problem? And no I am tolerant of thieves...God's rainbow was just that ...God's rainbow...It was his ...and now to even think about displaying such a sign is a sickening embarrassment |
atoz: thanx for your reply.
I thought that it was you who were calling yourself intolerant and a homophobe.
Did you mean that you are tolerant or not tolerant of thieves?
Remember that for me to hate thieves or to hate myself as a thief makes me a bigger thief since I am stealing LOVE, God's Holy Spirit of Mind, from myself and from others,
while the thieves are stealing a rainbow or money or whatever.
Romans 13:8
8Owe no man any thing, but to love one another:
for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Galatians 5:14
14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
in Love of being a fool and wise, which is what a sophomore or a morosophist is,
atoz |
Sorry for the type o...Should have written...I am NOT tolerant of thieves... Thanks for the correctionjavascript:emoticon(' ')
...This is still America...at least for the time being ...and you are free to express your views..as I am...mine....any and all who take what God has created and twist it into something that represents the very thing He despised the most...is to flaunt their lifestyles in God's face...as if to say " Look at me God...and guess what? I don't care" ... and I can do nothing about it but talk about...Sunshine is the best disinfectant... so that is what I do...Like I said ...call me what you want...but a liar will not be one of them! : |
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atoz
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: Re: What God Had Blessed Earth With Is Now An Abomination! |
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| StElsewhere wrote: |
atoz: thanx for your reply.
...Did you mean that you are tolerant or not tolerant of thieves?
Sorry for the type o...Should have written...I am NOT tolerant of thieves... Thanks for the correction javascript:emoticon('') |
Atoz: U're welcome. I am glad that you love yourself as correct and so love correction.
Proverbs 12
1Whoso loveth instruction/correction loveth knowledge:
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......any and all who take what God has created and twist it into something that represents the very thing He despised the most...is to flaunt their lifestyles in God's face...as if to say " Look at me God...and guess what? I don't care" ... and I can do nothing about it but talk about...Sunshine is the best disinfectant... so that is what I do... |
atoz: Does God despise the sinful cause or the symptomatic lifestyle?
Doesn't God love gays who are sinners: John 3:16,
but
hate the sin of Hate in their lifestyle as he does hate that same sin of Hate in the lifestyle of xtians?
Do you love gays?
Isn't it a sin to hate gays whom God loves?
Wd you love God as a gay? Matthew 25:35-45: inasmuch as you do love or do hate the least of these, you do give Love or you do give Hate to God....
One more thing:
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Like I said ...call me what you want...but a liar will not be one of them! : |
Are you a liar?
Do you ever lie?
Have you ever told a lie?
Do you love or hate yourself a liar?
Wd you love God as a liar?
Just checking.
Romans 4:17: God calls those things that are NOT as though they are: that's what a liar does.
That's why if I hate liars or gays or whoever or YOU,
I must also hate God as YOU and as a gay and as a liar and as whoever.
1 John 4:20
20If a man say,
I love God,
and hateth his brother,
he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
In Love of myself as liar so I can love and respect liars as myself, and teach them to love themselves as liars which Love will help them to tell the truth in Love about their lies by admitting their lies, and to tell the truth in Love,
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StElsewhere
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:41 am Post subject: Re: What God Had Blessed Earth With Is Now An Abomination! |
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| atoz wrote: | | StElsewhere wrote: |
atoz: thanx for your reply.
...Did you mean that you are tolerant or not tolerant of thieves?
Sorry for the type o...Should have written...I am NOT tolerant of thieves... Thanks for the correction javascript:emoticon('') |
Atoz: U're welcome. I am glad that you love yourself as correct and so love correction.
Proverbs 12
1Whoso loveth instruction/correction loveth knowledge:
| StElsewhere wrote: |
......any and all who take what God has created and twist it into something that represents the very thing He despised the most...is to flaunt their lifestyles in God's face...as if to say " Look at me God...and guess what? I don't care" ... and I can do nothing about it but talk about...Sunshine is the best disinfectant... so that is what I do... |
atoz: Does God despise the sinful cause or the symptomatic lifestyle?
Doesn't God love gays who are sinners: John 3:16,
but
hate the sin of Hate in their lifestyle as he does hate that same sin of Hate in the lifestyle of xtians?
Do you love gays?
Isn't it a sin to hate gays whom God loves?
Wd you love God as a gay? Matthew 25:35-45: inasmuch as you do love or do hate the least of these, you do give Love or you do give Hate to God....
One more thing:
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Like I said ...call me what you want...but a liar will not be one of them! : |
Are you a liar?
Do you ever lie?
Have you ever told a lie?
Do you love or hate yourself a liar?
Wd you love God as a liar?
Just checking.
Romans 4:17: God calls those things that are NOT as though they are: that's what a liar does.
That's why if I hate liars or gays or whoever or YOU,
I must also hate God as YOU and as a gay and as a liar and as whoever.
1 John 4:20
20If a man say,
I love God,
and hateth his brother,
he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
In Love of myself as liar so I can love and respect liars as myself, and teach them to love themselves as liars which Love will help them to tell the truth in Love about their lies by admitting their lies, and to tell the truth in Love,
atoz |
i never said I hated anyone...and your scarcely amusing banter is just that...all gas ...no substance...You neither refute what I say with WOG (Word of God) ..nor with rational conversation...Yes you are more than free to comment on whatever you want...but this is to advise you that I do not suffer fools lightly...for a fool is known by the multitude of his words:
Ecc 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice [is known] by multitude of words.
I couldn't care less if you are gay neither do I care if you love your miserable self...it didn't direct my thread to you...and for you to take it as some indictment of you and your lifestyle...well I just you must feel like you represent my remarks...now That's Amusing!...  |
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atoz
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: What God Had Blessed Earth With Is Now An Abomination! |
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| StElsewhere wrote: |
i never said I hated anyone...
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atoz: oh, good!
So U do love everyone.
That's so good, chum! smile
That's all you had to say!smile
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..but this is to advise you that I do not suffer fools lightly
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atoz: hmmmm
Well God is known for being wise and for being a fool:
in fact his foolishness is wiser than the wisdom of men.
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25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; ...
26For ye see your calling, brethren,
how that not many wise men after the flesh...are called:
27But God hath chosen the foolish people of the world to confound the wise; ... |
So I'll let God Himself talk in Love to you about not suffering fools lightly.
People who love fools normally find it easy to suffer fools in the Light of Love.
I wonder if you really do love .....? nah!
I'll take you at your word!
God knows ....your heart.
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...for a fool is known by the multitude of his words:
Ecc 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice [is known] by multitude of words.
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atoz: You've just confirmed that God is that kinda fool out of God's own mouth: that was neat.
God wrote such a multitude of his words in his
66 part Book,
with
1189 chapters,
31,102 verses
and
789,626 words
that He must be who He says a fool is.
Now as long as you genuinely and sincerely love fools because you love yourself as a fool as Him so you can love Him as you, as you gave your word, you are ok.
Now & then there're fools in Love such as I am & God is,
atoz
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atoz
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| StElsewhere wrote: |
I couldn't care less if you are gay neither do I care if you love your miserable self.
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atoz: hmmmmm
Well, you must *still* be hating me more than you are loving me as a miserable or haterable part of everyone...
but that's ok,
I love liars and so does God....all that matters is that you are on your way to meaning 'I love everyone'.....you will finally mean 'I love everyone' as long as you continue to say it!big 
In the meantime,
as long as God cares,
your lack of care I can bear,
with Love that all things bears.
| StElsewhere wrote: |
..it didn't direct my thread to you...and for you to take it as some indictment of you and your lifestyle...well I just you must feel like you represent my remarks.
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atoz: Now I do say that you are right about that!
And do you know how I know that you are right that I do represent your remarks?
It takes one to know one!smile
And since we both love ourselves as what those remarks of yours represent,
both of our faces and hearts perfectly reflect each other, as you gave your word, right?smile
Proverbs 27:19
As in water face answereth to face,
so the heart of man to man.
| StElsewhere wrote: |
..now That's Amusing!...
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atoz: to me self too, china plate!
with all Love and respect for me as a fool God loves as himself,
atoz |
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StElsewhere
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: |
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..but this is to advise you that I do not suffer fools lightly
atoz: hmmmm
Well God is known for being wise and for being a fool:
in fact his foolishness is wiser than the wisdom of men.
Quote:
25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; ...
26For ye see your calling, brethren,
how that not many wise men after the flesh...are called:
27But God hath chosen the foolish people of the world to confound the wise; ...
So I'll let God Himself talk in Love to you about not suffering fools lightly.
People who love fools normally find it easy to suffer fools in the Light of Love.
I wonder if you really do love .....? nah!
I'll take you at your word!
God knows ....your heart.
Your Light of Love has nothing to do with Jesus Christ ...and no matter how many times you state about what you love...who you love...why you love the way you do ... is no indication of your righteousness before the True and Living God ...there isn't a homosexual alive...who doesn't say that they love somebody...and it means what to the LORD? One degenerate ...loves another one...and several more to boot...and that is just for Monday...Tuesday is another story...big Woop...
oh! BTW: Your choice to twist the WOG around to say that God is a Fool...shows your blatant disrespect for the Righteousness of the WOG...but I expected no less!javascript:emoticon('')Cool...
Thanks for living up to my expectations...I appreciate it!...Good thing I keep them speed bump level...any higher and you'd fail! ...jolly good show! |
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atoz
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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[quote="StElsewhere
Your Light of Love has nothing to do with Jesus Christ ...
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atoz: First off, let me congratulate you for being MIP: Most Improved Person! Your new man of Love is budding forth as your old man of Hate is fighting for his accustomed supremacy...but your Love is winning and will win out.
ok?smile
This is just 'fyi 'to get you more and more clued into Love as a new and newly born Xtian babe in Christ by feeding your Love and starving your Hate:
God is Light: 1 John 1:5,
and
God is Love: 1 John 4:8, 16.
Therefore, since all Love comes from God,
Love is light and Light is Love.
So the Light of Love has everything to do with Jesus Christ, who is God as the Son of God.
Confirmation:
1 John 4:
6 ....Hereby
know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
7...Love is of God;
and every one that loveth [that's the spirit of truth]
is born of God,
and
knoweth God.
[Now here comes the error]:
8He that loveth not
knoweth not God;
for God is love.
Got that, guv'nor? Simplicity simplified.
One more for homework & as a bonus?
Isaiah 8:20
20To the law and to the testimony:
if they speak not according to this word,
it is because there is no light [of Love but only darkness of Hate] in them.
1 John 2:
9He that saith he is in the light [of what?],
and hateth his brother,
is in darkness [of what?] even until now.
Ah, here're the answers:
10He that *loveth* his brother abideth in *the light,*
and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11But he that *hateth* his brother is in darkness [of what?],
and walketh in darkness [of what?],
and knoweth not whither he goeth,
because that darkness [of what?] hath blinded his eyes.
See? This is kid's stuff as per Matthew 18:1-3 and 1 Corin 14:20: Kids have NO hatred ..until and unless mistaught to hate whoever or wahtever.
Loving you, StElsewhere, with the Light of God's Love,
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| StElsewhere wrote: |
...and no matter
how many times you state about what you love...
who you love...
why you love the way you do ...
is no indication of your righteousness before the True and Living God
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atoz:
See how adversarial and contrary that is to John 13:35 and to God is Love and to all Love is of God as per 1 John 4:7-8? see previous post for 1 John 4:7-8.
So that's your Hate-side, your Satan-side talking:
he is so against Love...so Love is bugging him...but he will flee and has to flee from Love.
So I say 'Hold on' to your Love side, your God-side, the right side of your mind and brain, the real you.
ok?
John 15:9
9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
John 13:35
35By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Your Love is gonna conquer your sin of Hate.
Guaranteed.
in the Love that only comes and can only come from God,
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atoz
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| StElsewhere wrote: |
......there isn't a homosexual alive...who doesn't say that they love somebody...and it means what to the LORD?
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atoz:
Boy, your Hate-side is to the fore and prominent and focused this morning!
But let it flow...so we can expose it to the Love so that you can repent of it...just as you repented of hating muslims and Mohammed.
U're gonna be ok.
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One degenerate ...loves another one...and several more to boot...and that is just for Monday...Tuesday is another story...big Woop...
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atoz: Wow! That Lefty side of yours is riddled with Hate!
And to counter that Sin of Degenerate Hate for degenerates who God loves, God had the Man after His Own Heart say this to make him SOUND like the worst form your point of view[pov], or best from God's pov:
2Samuel 1:
26 I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan:
very pleasant hast thou been unto me:
thy Love to me was wonderful, passing the Love of women.
1 Samuel 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel,
Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him:
for the LORD seeth not as man seeth;
for man looketh on the outward appearance,
but the LORD looketh on the heart.
I bet your Hateside is very upset with God for ever having that Gay-sounding Love and gay-sounding Love-words in His Word!
But there it is!
Easy to swallow when you love every word of God and live by every word of God. Matthew 4:4
Hard and bitter to swallow when you hate any word of God.
What did you say?
Good: U love everyone!
And that includes gays!
Good!
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said,
It is written,
Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Plus, Hatred for gays is the sin that means that you have latent homosexuality in you: you are going on and on about homosexuality as if that's the only sin: it exposes & reveals that prurient interest in gaydom already in you...since most gays are gays IN HATE of being straight!
So as our countryman wd say:
Thou dost protest too much!
in the Light of God's Love for gaysounding King David, the man after God's own heart.
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atoz
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| StElsewhere wrote: |
............oh! BTW: Your choice to twist the WOG around to say that God is a Fool...shows your blatant disrespect for the Righteousness of the WOG...but I expected no less!javascript:emoticon('')Cool...
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atoz: I am talking to your Hate-side since that is who is speaking:
Running scared, aren't you, since it was *YOU* who used your own definition of fools to hate & disrespect fools like me....and then used God's own words as your back-up without realising *WHO* else you were calling a fool and Who Else you were hating & disrespectingas a Fool!
But is ok: To your Love-side: God knows that you did not know better.
Plus, meanwhile, my shoulders of Love are Love-strong enough with God's Love for fools to love Him as one as myself since I have no conditions on God for my Love, and so I can easily to bear that light burden!smile
To your Hate-side:
Betcha will never ever use that scripture about a fool being one who uses a multitude of words ever again except in Love of God as one and of everyone else and especially of you as the first fool!
What do we say in England?
Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise and tis wise to be a fool?
The real fool is the one who hates fools whether he talks a lot, talks a little or keeps silent!
 for you.
FYI:
Homework Assignment for your Love-side to become:
1 Corinthians 3:18
18Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world,
let him become a fool that he may be wise.
in the Wisdom of Love that makes fools wise and makes the wise wise-wise,
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| StElsewhere wrote: |
Thanks for living up to my expectations...I appreciate it!...Good thing I keep them speed bump level...any higher and you'd fail! ...jolly good show!
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atoz: You're welcome..any time and any place!
Like Paul and God and JC,
I am, and live up to be, whatever you expect me or to whatever your expectations are for me to be:
To you as a fool, I become & am a fool in Love.
To you as a speed bump, I am a speed bump in Love.
To you as failure, I am a failure in Love.
To you as Hater of gays, I become a Gay in Love and I become a Hater of the sin of Hate for gays, and I become a Lover of Haters.
To you a Muslim hater, I become a muslim in Love, a Hater of the sin of hating muslims, a Lover of of haters in order to love you as a hater so that I can show you what is the right thing to hate: the sin of hating any word or person or place or thing.
Simple, isn't it?
It's as simple as this:
1 Corin 9:
20And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews;
to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
21To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
22To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak:
I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
To jolly good shows, I am a jolly good show!
see how it works?
Thanx for the opportunity in being all things in Love to you, in being one thing in Love to you, and in being anything in Love to you!
I have sincere expectations for you to give me more opportunities in Love as soon as you read this and reply!
I have endless omnitudes of words to burn ....in Love:smile: so please make use of them.
In hopeful expectation!
In any case, all things work for good for those who love God especially the bad things: so others who read what I write to you will take heart and courage and Love!
in Love for myself as the fool I have become in order to be wise as God is a fool and Whose foolishness is wise,
atoz, the sophomoron in Love of the wise and fool |
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