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Silver Surfer
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: A Christian's ...Judgment Day Reply with quote

Whether a Christian makes it into heaven, depends on whether they pass God's Judgment day, or not.

QUESTION: How many in the Christian world have studied out everything in the Bible about God's Judgment Day ?

Believing just in Christ's Death, Burial, and Resurrection is NOT ENOUGH !

And, those who have already studied out about God's Judgment Day, already know that fact.

The Everlasting Gospel message includes....the Judgment Day of God......
Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.


Notice the phrase.....'judgment is come'....as it is a present day thing ?

Judgment has already started....and when it ends, and everyones fate is decided for time and eternity.....then Jesus Christ will come again......
Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
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beloved57
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not going to heaven silver with those blasphemies you are teaching, it is possible you are a reprobate, that is, one predestined to eternal damnation, because you teach a false gospel !

gal 1:

8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
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Silver Surfer
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beloved57 wrote:
You are not going to heaven silver with those blasphemies you are teaching, it is possible you are a reprobate, that is, one predestined to eternal damnation, because you teach a false gospel !
I see....... I'm glad you not being judgmental, Hmm.

I do have a question though.

What 'gospel' am I teaching, that is different from what Jesus Christ, and the Apostle Paul taught ?
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beloved57
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you kidding me, you know absolutely NOTHING about the gospel of christ, you are a servant of the DEVIL..
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Silver Surfer
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beloved57 wrote:
Are you kidding me, you know absolutely NOTHING about the gospel of christ, you are a servant of the DEVIL..
OH ?
You're great at accusing someone, but you fail to identify the reasons for such accusations.
Let's be a little specific, shall we ?

What exactly is it that you feel that I don't know about the Gospel message ?
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RevJP
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salvation by grace through faith, not of works.
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beloved57
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not believe in salvation by grace, you promote salvation by keeping commandments, you are of the devil. You may be reprobated, that is, you may be one God has predestned to hell. Salvation is soley by the Sovereign Grace of God, God chooses who is saved, man has nothing to do with it. Man is blessed only if God Sovereignly elected him or her, thats it..
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Negative Overload
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, so you're saying that nothing we do in this life, for good or ill, really matters, because in the long term God's the final arbiter?
Why should people choose to live a life according to the Bible, if God decides regardless of what we do?
Why would God operate that way? I thought Heaven and Hell were reward/punishment for our lives and our obedience to His word, not just random places He dumped us according to how He was feeling that day...



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beloved57
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Negative Overload wrote:
Wait, so you're saying that nothing we do in this life, for good or ill, really matters, because in the long term God's the final arbiter?
Why should people choose to live a life according to the Bible, if God decides regardless of what we do?
Why would God operate that way? I thought Heaven and Hell were reward/punishment for our lives and our obedience to His word, not just random places He dumped us according to how He was feeling that day...



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Nope, sorry, Salvation and all that entails is of Sovereign Grace, it is not based upon anything people do or not do, sorry, that is a satanic presumption ..If one has not been chosen to salvation by God, there is no hope for them.
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Negative Overload
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the only reason to live a moral life is because, what, you yourself want to? Or because you're too afraid of earthly punishments to break man's laws?
Why should anyone worship a god whose decisions of eternal pain or pleasure are decided on a whim? It's not like sucking up to him is going to make things better, nor will ignoring him make things worse. What use has religion in this scenario, save as a human social construct?
This line of reasoning...I don't know what to make of it. It allows for the possibility of good people, who harm none, eternally suffering without God's light, and evil people hanging out in Heaven.
If nothing else, religion can help keep people in line, so to speak, as far as in relation to society and their fellow men. In this case it offers not even that, and gives no reason to be in any way moral, or to follow a particular belief.



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Pete
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beloved57 wrote:


Nope, sorry, Salvation and all that entails is of Sovereign Grace, it is not based upon anything people do or not do, sorry, that is a satanic presumption ..If one has not been chosen to salvation by God, there is no hope for them.


Are you one of the chosen few?
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beloved57
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Negative Overload wrote:
So the only reason to live a moral life is because, what, you yourself want to? Or because you're too afraid of earthly punishments to break man's laws?
Why should anyone worship a god whose decisions of eternal pain or pleasure are decided on a whim? It's not like sucking up to him is going to make things better, nor will ignoring him make things worse. What use has religion in this scenario, save as a human social construct?
This line of reasoning...I don't know what to make of it. It allows for the possibility of good people, who harm none, eternally suffering without God's light, and evil people hanging out in Heaven.
If nothing else, religion can help keep people in line, so to speak, as far as in relation to society and their fellow men. In this case it offers not even that, and gives no reason to be in any way moral, or to follow a particular belief.



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Christ had some of the worst things to say to religous, moral people. Your morals are filthy rags in Gods sight..

isa 64

6But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.


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beloved57
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete wrote:
beloved57 wrote:


Nope, sorry, Salvation and all that entails is of Sovereign Grace, it is not based upon anything people do or not do, sorry, that is a satanic presumption ..If one has not been chosen to salvation by God, there is no hope for them.


Are you one of the chosen few?


Yes !
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RevJP wrote:
Salvation by grace through faith, not of works.

Yes, But remember that it is our works that God will Judge us by.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

We are saved by grace, thru faith.....to DO the works God has saved us for.

There is where our works come under 'Investigation' in the Day of God's Judgment.

THAT IS WHY....record books are kept in heaven....to record our works.
Because our works, determine whether we have really accepted Jesus Christ, as our LORD.
Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say ?

Very, Very, Very few people in the Christians world realize the VAST IMPORTANCE of Romans 6:16.......
6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness ?
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beloved57
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only the non elect are going to be judged for their sins, like you silver surf , at this point, save a miracle of grace, you will be judged by God, you are not a believer in christ. You may even be a reprobate, one who God has predetemined to hell, your false doctrines manifest that possibility!

Jude

4For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

At this point, you are absolutely ignorant to bible salvation of Gods chosen people and promote a false doctrine of works, you are pitiful..
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