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Silver Surfer
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: The Lord's Day....the 7th Day Sabbath |
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True Christians everywhere recognize, from the Bible, which day God authorized, as the Lord's Day.
From their Bible study, they have known that Christ, as God, established the Lord's Day way back in Genesis 2:2,3.
And, they know throughout their Bibles that God called the 7th day sabbath ....HIS.
They know the Lord's will in this matter, as God set up the 7th day sabbath as the 'sign' of loyalty between Himself and the Believer in Him......
20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a [color=red]sign between me and them, that they might know that I [am] the LORD that sanctify them.
20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God. [/color]
The true Bible Believer also understands that the 7th day sabbath was created 2300+ years ....BEFORE....there ever was an Israelite, therefore the sabbath can NEVER be called Jewish.
Part of the Everlasting Gospel message is to observe God's Holy Sabbath Day....... |
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pato
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: Te Lord's Day |
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Hi all,
I have a question. Can anyone post what references the bible makes to the Lord's day? I mean actual scripture pertaining to the Lord's day, not which day you think that christians should worship on. |
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Te Lord's Day |
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| pato wrote: | Hi all,
I have a question. Can anyone post what references the bible makes to the Lord's day? I mean actual scripture pertaining to the Lord's day, not which day you think that christians should worship on. |
Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I [am] the LORD that sanctify them.
20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.
Isaiah 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways...."
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:
20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. |
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pato
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: Lord's day |
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Hi Silver Surfer
Thanks for your post on the Sabbath however it's not exactly what I'm asking or maybe I'm not phrasing it right. What I want are scripture references on the phrase the Lord's day. |
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Rev 1:9 ¶ I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Isa 2:12 For the day of the LORD of hosts [shall be] upon every [one that is] proud and lofty, and upon every [one that is] lifted up; and he shall be brought low:
Isa 13:6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD [is] at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
Isa 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
Jer 46:10 For this [is] the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.
Eze 13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.
Eze 30:3 For the day [is] near, even the day of the LORD [is] near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.
Joe 1:15 Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD [is] at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
Joe 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for [it is] nigh at hand;
Joe 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp [is] very great: for [he is] strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD [is] great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joe 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD [is] near in the valley of decision.
Amo 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end [is] it for you? the day of the LORD [is] darkness, and not light.
Amo 5:20 [Shall] not the day of the LORD [be] darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
Oba 1:15 For the day of the LORD [is] near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
Zep 1:7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD [is] at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.
Zep 1:14 The great day of the LORD [is] near, [it is] near, and hasteth greatly, [even] the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
Zep 2:2 Before the decree bring forth, [before] the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you.
Zep 2:3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.
Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
1Cr 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
2Cr 1:14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also [are] ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Lord's Day...Day of the Lord...
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pato
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: Lord's Day |
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Hi guys
Lone -Traveler, this is exactly what I'm looking for, thank you greatly.
Lone-Traveler wrote:
Lord's Day...Day of the Lord...
same thing?
I often hear arguments about the Lord's day referring to Sabbath worship or Sunday worship, but this is not the point I want to bring out here. Lone-Traveler has said it perfectly in the above quote. My question in trying to understand this point is this....
If there is no difference between the two statements in scripture, why then is this statement taken to verify some day of worship when the scriptures show that it has nothing to do with worshipping on any day whatsoever, but instead the day when God pours out his wrath? |
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hi pato,
I see the sabbath in a lot of different angles.
One way is that we are told not to do ANY work in it at all. Not even go out of our houses...basically..play dead for the day.
In the beginning it was God's sabbath that he had set aside for himself, but then he gave it to man so that we could rest.
Well, while we're resting He's working...and what is he doing for work? destroying evil.
So if your up and about on that day you might just get caught in the crossfire.
Like the passover. They were told to stay inside until the angel of death passed over them.
Who is the angel of death? why were they told to stay inside?
God told them not to go out looking for food on the sabbath because there wouldn't be any...like famine.
They didn't give the land rest so they got caught in the wars, pestilences and famines of the land.
He gave them warning...just like there is a warning about the day of the Lord.
Sit down, and keep still, because it's the Lord's day to work and not man's. But man just can't seem to sit still so we get caught in the crossfire.
To enter the sabbath is to enter into God's rest which is to enter into Christ and to cease from our own works and let the Lord have room to do his work on his day.
Because the Lord's day is a day of darkness there is no light in it...just like death there is no light in death, it's only after you pass through it you come into the light.
I believe God told us every seventh day because no one knows for sure what seventh day God is going to go to work. Because when it's time for him to move nobody really knows the hour or day and all we can do is pray that it's not on the sabbath or in the winter because then it will be real hard.
Because man doesn't keep the sabbath there's a lot of people gonna get caught in the crossfire because they disobey...
Now I believe that Christ is our sabbath, he is our seventh day. And we rest in him and we die in him and we live in him. And we don't do works any more.
That Christ is that day which God sanctified and rested in himself.
And God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself.
There's a lot of twists and turns..and I just like to ramble..so I just give you an idea of how my thoughts float... 
God Bless
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| lone-traveler wrote: | Hi pato,
I see the sabbath in a lot of different angles.
One way is that we are told not to do ANY work in it at all. Not even go out of our houses...basically..play dead for the day. |
And Jesus came to this earth to prove that that is the wrong interpretation of sabbath observance.....
One of Christ's mission objectives, was to.......Isaiah 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make [it] honourable.
By His life He visited the sick and poor people on the sabbath day.
Jesus went to church on the sabbath day also.
To stay at home and do nothing, is breaking the spirit of sabbath observance.
| Quote: | In the beginning it was God's sabbath that he had set aside for himself, but then he gave it to man so that we could rest.
Well, while we're resting He's working...and what is he doing for work? destroying evil.
So if your up and about on that day you might just get caught in the crossfire.
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If a Christian is doing the Lord's will, on the sabbath day, they will go to church, as set forth by Christ's example......they will visit the sick, to help them......they will help the poor....ect.
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Like the passover. They were told to stay inside until the angel of death passed over them.
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Just remember that the Passover is NOT the 7th day sabbath, which is observed every 7th day.
The Passover was observed once a year.
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Because man doesn't keep the sabbath there's a lot of people gonna get caught in the crossfire because they disobey... |
Those who DO NOT observe the 7th day sabbath exactly like Christ did, setting an example for Christians to follow will not get into heaven...just as God says they won't.
God set up the 7th day sabbath as a test of loyalty, to see who are truely believers in His word.....the Bible.....
20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.
The Apostle Paul kept the 7th day sabbath ! |
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: |
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No disagreement there SS...
If we do good on the sabbath then it is acceptable...
but there is none good, only God. So it is not us doing the works but Him working through us...yea?
But if your doing your own works...things for self gain, self recognition...well, then your breaking the sabbath by not keeping it Holy to the Lord. Your doing your own thing for yourself.
| Quote: | | To stay at home and do nothing, is breaking the spirit of sabbath observance. |
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Jhn 7:33 Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and [then] I go unto him that sent me.
Hbr 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
Act 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Exd 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:
Exd 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
2Ch 36:14 Moreover all the chief of the priests, and the people, transgressed very much after all the abominations of the heathen; and polluted the house of the LORD which he had hallowed in Jerusalem.
Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Luk 11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
Act 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
baptised..submersed...covered..enclosed..surrounded..
entered in...
Did they transgress the sabbath? Did they pollute the sabbath? Did they pollute the house of God by placing their sins in it?
The old temple was destroyed and a new temple was built..washed clean...and purified.
Jhn 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
Jesus never names the Father does he?
Hallowed be thy name...And God hallowed the Sabbath Day...and rested in it.
God was IN Christ reconciling the world unto himself..
| Quote: | One of Christ's mission objectives, was to.......Isaiah 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make [it] honourable.
By His life He visited the sick and poor people on the sabbath day.
Jesus went to church on the sabbath day also. |
Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words:
Delight:
Psa 37:4 Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart. (rest)
Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].
here's a good one:
Jer 6:10 To whom shall I speak, and give warning, that they may hear? behold, their ear [is] uncircumcised, and they cannot hearken: behold, the word of the LORD is unto them a reproach; they have no delight in it.
and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him,
| Quote: | Just remember that the Passover is NOT the 7th day sabbath, which is observed every 7th day.
The Passover was observed once a year. |
Exd 13:3 ¶ And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this [place]: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
Exd 13:4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.
Exd 13:5 And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee, a land flowing with milk and honey, that thou shalt keep this service in this month.
Exd 13:6 Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day [shall be] a feast to the LORD.
Exd 13:7 Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.
Exd 13:8 And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, [This is done] because of that [which] the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt.
Exd 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
Exd 13:10 Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.
magnified the law:
Mat 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
Mat 16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake [it] not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
Mat 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade [them] not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
Exd 13:7 Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.
| Quote: | | Those who DO NOT observe the 7th day sabbath exactly like Christ did, setting an example for Christians to follow will not get into heaven...just as God says they won't. |
Hbr 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
| Quote: | | The Apostle Paul kept the 7th day sabbath ! |
Hbr 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] from his.
Hbr 4:11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| lone-traveler wrote: | SS wrote: | Quote: | | The Apostle Paul kept the 7th day sabbath ! |
Hbr 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] from his.
Hbr 4:11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
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Yes, faith is expressed in actions.
Paul expressed his faith in God's word by keeping both the spiritual aspects of the Law, as well as the physical aspects of the Law.
One without the other, is of no value in God's sight. |
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
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I was thinkin....
God had to have created the seventh day in order to rest in it...
so when did God create the seventh day if he did no work in it?
On the sixth day...he created two days....
66......
He gives us an example in Exodus when he gives the people manna for two days so they don't have to work on the seventh day...
Like Both John and Jesus were created on the sixth day.
John ended and Jesus began...and the evening and the morning was the sixth day....
and then along came Peter and Paul...
And Peter was sent to the Jews and Paul to the Gentiles.
The cloud to make the Jews blind and the fire to make the Gentiles see....by day and by night...
Why do we always leave out John?
Elizabeth concieved by the holy ghost and Mary concieved by the holy ghost...God gave birth to two sons...John was the firstborn and Jesus the younger..
But like Esau and Jacob the younger ruled over the elder.
I must decrease and he must increase...
The first shall be last and the last first...
But he that is least in the kingdom of God shall be greater than John...
The evening was created first so that means the moon is first. new moons...
And the morning is second so that means the sun rules after the moon but it is brighter than the moon...
And the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall turn to blood....
The moon is covered in blood..John was covered by the blood of the lamb...
but the sun shall be darkened and not give it's light...
Their minds were darkened so that they couldn't see the light....
I believe the sabbath day was created on the sixth day and God rested in the seventh day...
When John was beheaded...he rested in Christ...
The Lord said unto my lord, sit here until I make thine enemies thy footstool....
Ye generation of vipers who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come....
The Day of the Lord is a day of great darkness, there is no light in it...
And the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall turn to blood...
just thinkin...
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| lone-traveler wrote: | I believe the sabbath day was created on the sixth day and God rested in the seventh day...
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OK, Lone......I'll bite.
Since the sabbath means rest....how could God have created man, yet rested from working, at the same time ?
BTW....I love how you bring up questions to provoke thought. |
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Well,
If God rested the seventh day and did no work in it, then the day must have been created first in order for him to rest in it..no?
Mybe the seventh day..sabbath..existed before the first day, but God had Adam name everything, so the sabbath didn't have a name until Adam said seventh day.
What was God doing before he went to work on the first day?...resting...in the sabbath...
So either the seventh day was created on the sixth day..like the manna was twice as much on the sixth day..
Like elisha recieved twice the spirit of elijah..
a double portion..
Or it was already in existance just not materialized before the first day...which would make the seventh day the eigth day...
Why is there an eighth day and it doesn't just go back to the first day?
Why are children circumcised on the eighth day...the eighth day is the first day isn't it?
So then the first day is a double portion too...
If Jesus is the seventh day...the rest that we enter and that lasts for a thousand years which is as a day, then when do we get circumcised on the eighth day?
Is that the seperating of the sheep and goats..the living and the dead?
that would be the first day of the week when he rose from the dead..making it the eighth day which seperated the living from the dead...
Jesus is the first and the last...so if the first day is sunday and the last day is saturday...according to the calendar...then we have two days...
that double portion....two days created in one day...
just thinkin...
I ramble..lol..
hugs
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| lone-traveler wrote: | Well,
If God rested the seventh day and did no work in it, then the day must have been created first in order for him to rest in it..no?
Mybe the seventh day..sabbath..existed before the first day, but God had Adam name everything, so the sabbath didn't have a name until Adam said seventh day.
What was God doing before he went to work on the first day?...resting...in the sabbath...
So either the seventh day was created on the sixth day..like the manna was twice as much on the sixth day..
Like elisha recieved twice the spirit of elijah..
a double portion..
Or it was already in existance just not materialized before the first day...which would make the seventh day the eigth day...
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You know, Lone.....that has often puzzled me also.
If God created only a 7 day week cycle....where does the 8th day come into play ?
Yeah, How can there be an 8th day, when it should really be the 1st day...Hmm.
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Why are children circumcised on the eighth day...the eighth day is the first day isn't it?
So then the first day is a double portion too...
If Jesus is the seventh day...the rest that we enter and that lasts for a thousand years which is as a day, then when do we get circumcised on the eighth day?
Is that the seperating of the sheep and goats..the living and the dead?
that would be the first day of the week when he rose from the dead..making it the eighth day which seperated the living from the dead...
Jesus is the first and the last...so if the first day is sunday and the last day is saturday...according to the calendar...then we have two days...
that double portion....two days created in one day...
just thinkin...
I ramble..lol..
hugs
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Great stuff !
You just keep rambling on, ok ? |
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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mathematics... 
Jesus asks the question...
are there not twelve hours in a day?
and the evening and the morning were the 1-6 day..
we are not children of the night but children of the day..
do you think Adam was created during the evening or the morning? How about Eve?
If Adam was created first then he would have been created in the evening and Eve would have been the morning.
Now Eve is the mother of all living..those that are born in the day and not the night...
Doesn't say Adam is the Father of all living..but that in Adam we all died... 
12 hours in a day...twelve apostles...twelve tribes of Israel...12 tribes of Ishmael...
Some are born in the day and some are of the night..
We are not of the night but of the day..
1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
which is cool because if the seventh day and the first day are both the same day, then we can see God in Christ...
and if the sixth day is a double portion of the seventh day, which makes the seventh day a double portion of the first day...then we can see...
Man in God in Christ...three days in one..
oohh there's that trinity again..LOL
death/man/friday burial/rest in God/saturday resurrection/life /sunday
wake up time...
we are alive/awake in Christ..we are not asleep as some/ and we have already died in baptism..
The old man died...we find rest.. and are refreshed and are reborn..
1Th 2:9 For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God.
Rev 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about [him]; and [they were] full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
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