Where are the 100% verse for verse bible believers?

tonytony · Tadpole Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 20

You say you believe Paul teaching on remarriage after
divorce is adultery and you say you believe Paul teaching that modesty in apparel and hygiene is the teaching for heaven too. Believe Paul teaching on church leadership in those verses too ? Experience will teach a Christian that folks will think your a crazy weirdo for taking a stand and testing people's reaction to these passages of scripture, etc. School me on more of you here. Your the best posting I got here I believe. Wonder who else is of like faith agreeing with God's Word or Holy Spirit and not agreeing with man or me really.

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Colter · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 409

100% fetish?

EVOLUTION OF THE FETISH

"It was a supposed preference of ghosts to indwell some object which had belonged to them when alive in the flesh. This belief explains the efficacy of many modern relics. The ancients always revered the bones of their leaders, and the skeletal remains of saints and heroes are still regarded with superstitious awe by many. Even today, pilgrimages are made to the tombs of great men.

Belief in relics is an outgrowth of the ancient fetish cult. The relics of modern religions represent an attempt to rationalize the fetish of the savage and thus elevate it to a place of dignity and respectability in the modern religious systems. It is heathenish to believe in fetishes and magic but supposedly all right to accept relics and miracles.

The hearth--fireplace--became more or less of a fetish, a sacred spot. The shrines and temples were at first fetish places because the dead were buried there. The fetish hut of the Hebrews was elevated by Moses to that place where it harbored a superfetish, the then existent concept of the law of God. But the Israelites never gave up the peculiar Canaanite belief in the stone altar: "And this stone which I have set up as a pillar shall be God's house." They truly believed that the spirit of their God dwelt in such stone altars, which were in reality fetishes.

The earliest images were made to preserve the appearance and memory of the illustrious dead; they were really monuments. Idols were a refinement of fetishism. The primitives believed that a ceremony of consecration caused the spirit to enter the image; likewise, when certain objects were blessed, they became charms.

Moses, in the addition of the second commandment to the ancient Dalamatian moral code, made an effort to control fetish worship among the Hebrews. He carefully directed that they should make no sort of image that might become consecrated as a fetish. He made it plain, "You shall not make a graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or on the earth beneath, or in the waters of the earth." While this commandment did much to retard art among the Jews, it did lessen fetish worship. But Moses was too wise to attempt suddenly to displace the olden fetishes, and he therefore consented to the putting of certain relics alongside the law in the combined war altar and religious shrine which was the ark.

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God's words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses' very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The practice of opening one of these sacred books to let the eye chance upon a passage, the following of which may determine important life decisions or projects, is nothing more nor less than arrant fetishism. To take an oath on a "holy book" or to swear by some object of supreme veneration is a form of refined fetishism.

But it does represent real evolutionary progress to advance from the fetish fear of a savage chief's fingernail trimmings to the adoration of a superb collection of letters, laws, legends, allegories, myths, poems, and chronicles which, after all, reflect the winnowed moral wisdom of many centuries, at least up to the time and event of their being assembled as a "sacred book."

To become fetishes, words had to be considered inspired, and the invocation of supposed divinely inspired writings led directly to the establishment of the authority of the church, while the evolution of civil forms led to the fruition of the authority of the state." UB 1955

Colter
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Micah denounced "the rulers who judge for reward and the priests who teach for hire and the prophets who divine for money." He taught of a day of freedom from superstition and priestcraft, saying: "But every man shall sit under his own vine, and no one shall make him afraid, for all people will live, each one according to his understanding of God."

james · Grizzly Bear Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 733

I am one who truely believes the Word of God (The Bible) 100%. I do not believe the Word of God contradicts itself anywhere. Seemingly contradictions, to me, are scriptures I need to seek revelation from God on. I believe God used the prophets, inspired of the Spirit, to write the Bible and many of them did not understand what they were writing.
To say there is a contradiction in the Word of God seems to say God made a mistake somewhere and this is an impossibility.
Who can claim to be all knowing ? Who can claim to understand all of Gods thoughts?

atoz · Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:46 am Post subject:

Where are the 100% verse for verse bible believers?

We can believe in 100% Love of each word in every verse, Matthew 4:4, with believing or without believing everything in every verse!

There are lies in the Bible that God does NOT want us to believe but wants us to love.

Examples are Romans 4:17 and all parables which are made-up stories or fiction or lies or untruths: even lies carry the truth and the truth about Love....just as the truth carries all lies and the truth about Love.

in Love of all words and all words in Love,
atoz

nana · Bear Cub Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 625

Dear james,

Paul prayed: Eph 1:17-19, "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places."

Yes, God intends for us to have the wisdom and knowledge of Him.

In Christ, Judy

eleven · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:06 am Post subject:

Personally, I think we are all looking at this backwards. The Bible says, we are all one body with many parts. No part is more important than any of the others, therefore we all have something to contribute to the body.

Jesus also said, A house divided against itself CANNOT stand. That's exactly what is happening with all this bickering and all these separate denominations.

I truly believe that God is the Big Picture, and that we ALL have some little piece of the puzzle. If we could all just shut up our egos long enough to truly LISTEN to each other, each puzzle piece would come together and we would HAVE the Big Picture. But nooooooo........

Ok, carry on...............(no pun intended.)

eleven · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:07 am Post subject:

Personally, I think we are all looking at this backwards. The Bible says, we are all one body with many parts. No part is more important than any of the others, therefore we all have something to contribute to the body.

Jesus also said, A house divided against itself CANNOT stand. That's exactly what is happening with all this bickering and all these separate denominations.

I truly believe that God is the Big Picture, and that we ALL have some little piece of the puzzle. If we could all just shut up our egos long enough to truly LISTEN to each other, each puzzle piece would come together and we would HAVE the Big Picture. But nooooooo........

Ok, carry on...............(no pun intended.)

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:53 am Post subject:

hey 11,
you sound like me..lol..

if we just stop pointing fingers at everyone else's faults, we would eventually realize that all of us are at fault. For the simple reason being, that no one is wiiling to listen, learn and love eachother, whether we have some flaws or not.

God will work out the flaws, when we all become silent before him..and learn to listen to the Word, his love in our hearts.

Very Happy

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Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

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