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theseldomscene
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| today bush had some heavy words about the whole situation... |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Trinity1 wrote: | | Ryck wrote: | | That's what everyone is eyeing. Israel's toleration ended when Iraq got to the brink of nuclear capability. Once Iran gets to the brink of nuclear capability too ... look out! |
I don't think Israel or the US can afford to wait that long. I'll be watching to see what happens by June if no movment is made by then. |
I met someone on my trip who had just spoken to a bunch of Israelis that he met during his travels. They were all in the military, and apparently said that if you want to visit Iran, do so now, because Israel has been putting together some serious plans to attack them.
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RevJP
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Israel has been putting together very serious plans for decades now. They plan, they practice, the train, then they do it all over again. The chances that they will actually attack Iran without significant provocation from Iran are very, very slim. Particularly since they have enough on thier plate in their own backyard.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: | | Israel has been putting together very serious plans for decades now. They plan, they practice, the train, then they do it all over again. The chances that they will actually attack Iran without significant provocation from Iran are very, very slim. Particularly since they have enough on thier plate in their own backyard. |
Does Iran trying to build nuclear weapons with which to 'wipe Israel off the map' count as significant provocation?
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RevJP
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No.
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I hope you're right, but what makes you think that Israel would not preemptively destroy Iran's nuclear program like they did with Iraq's nuclear program?
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RevJP
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | but what makes you think that Israel would not preemptively destroy Iran's nuclear program like they did with Iraq's nuclear program? |
I'm just asserting that Iran's 'trying' to develop nuclear weapons does not constitue significant provocation particularly since Israel has its hands full with conflict in its own land.
They really don't have the ability to fight two fronts at the moment and I believe they understand that.
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| RevJP wrote: | I'm just asserting that Iran's 'trying' to develop nuclear weapons does not constitue significant provocation particularly since Israel has its hands full with conflict in its own land.
They really don't have the ability to fight two fronts at the moment and I believe they understand that. |
Is Israel's military even engaged right now? I get the impression that the vast majority of their hardware isn't even being used right now. Certainly their air force, which is the main arm that would be used to hit Iran, is not being used.
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RevJP
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So what happens when (if) Israel launches an attack, of the size necessary to accomplish the mission, on Iran? What does Palestine do when Israel's military resources are otherwise engaged?
The threat on their own shores is much more provocative and real that the impending threat of Iran 'trying' to accomplish nuclear capability.
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lone-traveler
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I don't watch the news very much...
maybe I should..
you guys are freaking me out..LOL
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| RevJP wrote: | So what happens when (if) Israel launches an attack, of the size necessary to accomplish the mission, on Iran? What does Palestine do when Israel's military resources are otherwise engaged?
The threat on their own shores is much more provocative and real that the impending threat of Iran 'trying' to accomplish nuclear capability. |
What am I missing? Israel keeps its ground forces at home to deal with the Palestinians, and it uses its air force to hit Iran, just like it did with Iraq. It's not like Israel would try to launch a ground invasion of Iran, anyways. That would be stupid. For one, how would they get their troops over there? Besides, I doubt that the entire Israeli army would be able to do much on the ground. They'd be totally outnumbered, and the Iranians would have home court advantage. If they couldn't handle Hizbollah in Lebanon, then what chance would they stand against the entire Iranian army?
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theseldomscene
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| lone-traveler wrote: | I don't watch the news very much...
maybe I should..
you guys are freaking me out..LOL |
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lone-traveler
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But tss...
Their talkin like it's the end of the world or something.... 
sounds like armagheddon to me... 
me worry??
I live in the woods..LOL..
and when I'm not here, I'm movin too fast through the country to keep up with LOL...
Seriously though...
even if some of you don't believe in the bible and prophecy and stuff, you have to admit things are getting somewhat out of hand on all fronts..
weather, war, famine, diseases....
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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amen...and..
| lone wrote: | | I live in the woods..LOL.. |
me too...if one took a half mile radius completely around my house with my house being in the center...only two neighbors in the whole radius....  |
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lone-traveler
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My back is up against a forest.
Isa 5:8 ¶ Woe unto them that join house to house, [that] lay field to field, till [there be] no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!
Isa 5:9 In mine ears [said] the LORD of hosts, Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, [even] great and fair, without inhabitant.
Isa 5:10 Yea, ten acres of vineyard shall yield one bath, and the seed of an homer shall yield an ephah.
I used to live in the city....then I moved to a park...now I live in the woods...
what's next?? 
LOL
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