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JonMarie
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| my apologies, I am not sure how to link to the page or any page for that matter. I just discovered how to find my recent posts. sorry |
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JonMarie
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| When it comes to politics and religion, people believe what they want to believe, regardless of the facts. |
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FFT
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I disagree that this is true of all people.
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45degreeN
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Well by the time the constitution was being debated most colonies had exercised their own peculiar sort of religion for nearly 200 years, most states had their own ways of doing things and most of them different. Each and every colony had their own religious oaths for office holders, all different.
For the constitutional convention to address all of these state's issues would have bogged them down in religious discussions and to avoid this, what came out was a void in the federal constitution leaving these issues to the states. No federal tests were allowed, but there was still all those laws from all the states that weren't suddenly erased. They all lasted for a long time until the states themselves took them away.
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JonMarie
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45: | Quote: | | To make a long story shorter between Henry VIII and King James of which we all know something about (remember the KJV), there was several sea changes in England over who would run the churches that were there. First the Anglican then the Catholics then the Anglicans. |
Except maybe me. I am not a bible scholar, nor trained in religious history. Could you please enlighten me as to what I am missing here? Short version, please. |
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Pete
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| JonMarie wrote: | 45: | Quote: | | To make a long story shorter between Henry VIII and King James of which we all know something about (remember the KJV), there was several sea changes in England over who would run the churches that were there. First the Anglican then the Catholics then the Anglicans. |
Except maybe me. I am not a bible scholar, nor trained in religious history. Could you please enlighten me as to what I am missing here? Short version, please. |
The short of it is that whenever religion gets involved with civil government, you get a corrupt religion. The so-called Christian religion became corrupt when it became the only authorized religion of the Roman state in the fourth century. Protestants later affiliated themselves with the state and political backing during the reformation and were corrupted. In the process, millions of people have been persecuted, tortured and slaughtered by these so-called "Christian" groups. All Trinitarian religions are utterly corrupt today, as a result.
Jesus made it very plain that Christians are not to be involved with civil governments: John 18:36; Jesus answered and said, "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." (time and place) |
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