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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ana wrote:
Dr. Michael Martin wrote:

Then Elvis came down from a UFO and wrote it. And so on and so forth, as the information keeps building up, this conversation gets more and more absurd. Its pointless to participate in this. I'd like to get into Scientific discussion for a change here.
- Here's my point Ana.
I think that if I were a con pretending to be someone else, I'd respond pretty much the way you have, because if I wanted to continue the charade, I couldn't let out that I can't respond to the email because I haven't got access to the person whom I'm trying to imitate's email inbox.
- There's my point flying over your head.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is getting less than constructive at this point. Either debate Science, or go somewhere that likes to talk about conspiracy theories. Elvislives.com might be able to help you with that one, but I don't think the purposes of this thread are relevant.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
that was mean Confused or disgusted Confused or disgusted ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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that was mean Confused or disgusted Confused or disgusted ...


Thats true. At the same time, hopefully it will keep their minds focused on not trying to inspire a riot of some sort at your forum, and stay Scientifically focused as it needs to be here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll discuss something other than your credentials when you answer Ana's email.

I think that's fair.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'll discuss something other than your credentials when you answer Ana's email.

I think that's fair.


I've been down the same road more than once. It all ends up the same. "Well...you just e-mailed him so that he'd e-mail me this to say this." Thats how it usually ends up turning out. I'm done with this conversation. I'm Dr. Michael Martin of CSR, like it or not. You can talk about my credentials all you want, but at this point, its a one sided conversation. I'll see my way out of it at this point. I came here to talk about Science, not my credentials.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
horse hockey...if your creds...are not important...why did you bring them up?...if youare who you say then show it as asked...if you are a liar then keep acting like one...as that is exactly what you are acting like...

if you truly think that you should not have to prove you are who you say you are, then why did you feel the need to say what you claim to be?....when you thought it would get you some milage you were riding it high...now you wish to brush it aside... Confused or disgusted Confused or disgusted
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dr. Michael Martin wrote:

I already told you why I'm not answering your e-mails. I don't want Aliens and Elvis to get involved.


Fine, don't answer your e-mail. There is another way. I sent you a message with a single word in the subject line. What is that word?

This is really rather simple. You keep going on about what a great scientist you are. Well here we have a science experiment. If you're the real Dr. Michael Martin, then all you have to do is look in your inbox and tell me what the word in the subject is. If you get the word right, then that will be good evidence that you are actually Dr. Michael Martin. I doubt you have the skills needed to hack into his e-mail account.

If you get the answer wrong, then it will be clear that you are not the real Dr. Michael Martin.

The ball is in your court, Doctor.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dr. Michael Martin wrote:

I've been down the same road more than once. It all ends up the same. "Well...you just e-mailed him so that he'd e-mail me this to say this." Thats how it usually ends up turning out. I'm done with this conversation. I'm Dr. Michael Martin of CSR, like it or not. You can talk about my credentials all you want, but at this point, its a one sided conversation. I'll see my way out of it at this point. I came here to talk about Science, not my credentials.


Actually, you wouldn't know science if it bit you in the face. You can't even answer some SIMPLE biochem questions.

Here's another opportunity for you to redeem yourself: if you're looking at a genome, and you're trying to find coding regions (genes), then what patterns do you look for? What are they called?

You aren't Dr. Michael Martin. I asked you what your thesis was about, and you said that it was about insects and swine. But your web page says that it was about neurotransmitters. NOBODY forgets what they wrote their thesis about. NOBODY. Even with advanced-stage alzheimer's, I'm going to remember my thesis.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dr. Michael Martin wrote:
It all ends up the same. "Well...you just e-mailed him so that he'd e-mail me this to say this."
What? That doesn't even make sense.

Dr. Michael Martin wrote:
I came here to talk about Science, not my credentials.
When you came here flaunting your credentials and using them to support your arguments, your credentials became part of the debate.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
FFT wrote:
Dr. Michael Martin wrote:
It all ends up the same. "Well...you just e-mailed him so that he'd e-mail me this to say this."
What? That doesn't even make sense.

Dr. Michael Martin wrote:
I came here to talk about Science, not my credentials.
When you came here flaunting your credentials and using them to support your arguments, your credentials became part of the debate.


The point is, you're right. It doesn't make sense. But somehow I'm guessing that if you don't believe me by now, you're not going to believe me. Science is what I'm here to talk about. I was giving a background on my credentials. Not for the purpose for you to derail and belittle as you have, but to introduce myself to the forum.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dr. Michael Martin wrote:

The point is, you're right. It doesn't make sense. But somehow I'm guessing that if you don't believe me by now, you're not going to believe me. Science is what I'm here to talk about. I was giving a background on my credentials. Not for the purpose for you to derail and belittle as you have, but to introduce myself to the forum.


Oh really?

When I challenged you on the Journal of Creation not being a proper scientific journal, you used your credentials like a gladiator hiding behind a shield!

I believe that the exchange went something like this:

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P1234567890 wrote:

Please cite some papers from a proper journal.


[b]Excuse me? Who is the Peer Review expert here?


YOU are the one who made your credentials an issue here, NOT us. We're just calling you on your fraud.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
By the way, I have a new offer for you: If you tell me the single word in the subject line of the e-mail that I sent you, then I will agree to *completely* stop questioning whether or not you are the real Dr. Michael Martin.
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By the way, I have a new offer for you: If you tell me the single word in the subject line of the e-mail that I sent you, then I will agree to *completely* stop questioning whether or not you are the real Dr. Michael Martin.


I've gotten several e-mails.
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Dr. Michael Martin wrote:
P1234567890 wrote:
By the way, I have a new offer for you: If you tell me the single word in the subject line of the e-mail that I sent you, then I will agree to *completely* stop questioning whether or not you are the real Dr. Michael Martin.


I've gotten several e-mails.


Well read them; it will be obvious which one is mine.
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