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Silver Surfer
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 Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: No 7 Year Trib.....IF...You Believe Jesus |
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Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
What happened to the UNsaved, in the case of Noah's flood ?
Yet, this same thing is said to be repeated when Christ comes again !
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Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. |
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sofyst
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone say with me: I am so glad Jesus came and fulfilled the law. I am so joyous that we are no longer bound to the law. I am so glad that Jesus did it all for us and we needn't live in some legalistic man-made and man-imposed regulations!
WOO! That makes me happy... |
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| sofyst wrote: | Everyone say with me: I am so glad Jesus came and fulfilled the law. I am so joyous that we are no longer bound to the law. I am so glad that Jesus did it all for us and we needn't live in some legalistic man-made and man-imposed regulations!
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Then, you admit you reject Jesus Christ's words telling Christians to keep the commandments of God ?
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
It is the cunning of Satan that the death of Christ brought in grace to take the place of the law.
The death of Jesus did not change or annul or lessen in the slightest degree the law of Ten Commandments (Matthew 5:17,18).
That precious grace offered to men through a Saviour's blood establishes the law of God.
Since the fall of man, God's moral government and His grace are inseparable.
They go hand in hand through all dispensations. "Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other" (Psalm 85:10).
Jesus, our Substitute, consented to bear for man the penalty of the law transgressed. He clothed His divinity with humanity and thus became the Son of man, a Saviour and Redeemer.
The very fact of the death of God's dear Son to redeem man shows the immutability of the divine law. How easily, from the transgressor's standpoint, could God have abolished His law, thus providing a way whereby men could be saved and Christ remain in heaven!
The doctrine which teaches freedom, through grace, to break the law is a fatal delusion.
Every transgressor of God's law is a sinner, and none can be sanctified while living in known sin.
The condescension and agony of God's dear Son were not endured to purchase for man liberty to transgress the Father's law and yet sit down with Christ in His throne.
It was that through His merits and the exercise of repentance and faith the most guilty sinner might receive pardon and obtain strength to live a life of obedience. The sinner is not saved in his sins, but from his sins.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
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sofyst
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I really cannot understand why you insist on calling Ellen White 'Jesus Christ'. And why you keep referring to Seventh Day Adventist teachings as Christian teaches. If you continue to equivocate between the two, then I will concede. Yes, I do reject Ellen White's teachings and yes I adamently and whole-heartedly reject the cultic teachings and blasphemous heresies that are spewed out by the adherents to Seventh Day Adventist's blasphemous doctrines.
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| silver wrote: | 1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. |
1 john3:23 and this is HIS commandment.that we should believe on the name of HIS SON JESUS CHRIST and love one another as HE gave us commandment.... |
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| sofyst wrote: | I really cannot understand why you insist on calling Ellen White 'Jesus Christ'. And why you keep referring to Seventh Day Adventist teachings as Christian teaches. If you continue to equivocate between the two, then I will concede. Yes, I do reject Ellen White's teachings and yes I adamently and whole-heartedly reject the cultic teachings and blasphemous heresies that are spewed out by the adherents to Seventh Day Adventist's blasphemous doctrines.
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INCREDIBLE !!!
You never even read the scriptures ?
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sofyst
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See, you say words like 'Scriptures', but I am confused as to what you really mean. You say the 'Scriptures' teach all this mumbojumbo bullcrap about legalistic law adherance and about only Seventh Day Adventist being the 'saved'.
But when reading the Bible that EVERYONE else reads, I don't see any of that propoganda heresy.
THEREFORE, I obviously must draw the conclusion that when you say 'Scriptures' you obviously do not mean the same thing as when every other Christian says Scriptures.
SO!! no, I haven't read your Scriptures...
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Silver Surfer
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| sofyst wrote: | | See, you say words like 'Scriptures', but I am confused as to what you really mean. You say the 'Scriptures' teach all this mumbojumbo bullcrap about legalistic law adherance |
OH....you mean when God says: Eccl. 12:13 "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man".
You are saying, we as Christians, should IGNORE what God has said here, as of no importance ?
You are free to do as you wish, But I want to be identified as one of God's people....those who keep the commandments of God, and have the faith of Jesus Christ (Revelation 14:12)J
| Quote: | | But when reading the Bible that EVERYONE else reads, I don't see any of that propoganda heresy. |
Just remember, that the religious leaders of Christ day, said Jesus taught only heresy also !
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THEREFORE, I obviously must draw the conclusion that when you say 'Scriptures' you obviously do not mean the same thing as when every other Christian says Scriptures.
SO!! no, I haven't read your Scriptures... |
This is a quote from Christ, which E. White has used on occasion...in her writings:
Ezekiel 20:20 "And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God".
These words are Jesus Christ's !
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