Being Saved

Ron · Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 7:00 am Post subject: Being Saved

Just a question for those who believe in God:

What does being saved mean to you? How do/did you become saved? Can one fall out of this position?

Thisa always generates much stimulating conversation between Christians. I will post my views later. God Bless

Bates15 · Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 10:53 am Post subject: Being Saved

MPI I am proud of you. Just the way it is. You dont dare God for things like that. You dont get saved by doing things like that.

You get saved when you give your life to God.

Please, dont give your obvious comment about God beeing a murder etc etc, it is getting boring. Ron asked and I am telling my part.

You trust the Lord will take you to heaven when your time has come. You feel the love of God floe in your life, it completes you. It makes you complete. It is like a wave flushing over you. That is what happend to me. It can also come in phases like some people I know.

I remain a human beeing with all my faults and mistakes. I am certanly not perfect. i would like to be but just trying to be perfect makes me no longer perfect. I have searhed for the perfect church but the moment I entered the church, it was no longer perfect. I just know that I have a forgiving Father in heaven. I hav eand find peace in the bible, I hav ea relationship with my father in the heaven. Hard to grab for some but logical when you think about it:
If you whant to have a relationship with, say, your wife. You talk with her, you study her, you look at video tapes starring your wife, you look at pictures, you spend time with her, you get to know her friends. It is the same way with God. If you want to get to know God, you HAVE to spend time with him. You speak (pray) to him, you read about him (bible) so you can get to know him and his will. You spend time with his childeren, ie you go to church.

Of course it is a personal relationship but it is open for everyone.

O well, that is my of thinking about it. I wonder what you think about it Ron. I posted this so you could see what tis means for me. I did not post this so I could be made fun of. I would really find it a shame if anyone would do so. We are here trying to get to know our God. I hope you all can respect that.

Bates15 · Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 12:37 pm Post subject: Being Saved

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Oh well...so be it. To each their own.[/B]

Thank you.

It is like the first time you drink a coca cola. You cannot say anything about the taste or bubbles untill you opened a bottle, poured a glass full and tasted the Cola. You cant comment on God, or say you dont want to be a Christian until you experience him.

Ron · Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 7:25 pm Post subject: Being Saved

Thank you Bates for posting. Ignore comments such as you see posted by those trying to raise our ire. I tried to share the Word of God but to no avail.

Now on to better things!
Being saved for me is accepting Jesus as my Saviour and doing my best to walk with God. Yes we are all sinners. I believe that when the Holy Spirit enters our lives we have a strong desire to not sin. We still do but i think it should be more than a cycle of "I sinned again- please forgive me." The Holy Spirit in us overwhelms us to try to do what God wants. This is my sense of being saved.
Our everyday actions should reflect our walk with God. Here is an article I wrote on this:
Evidences of Our Faith

When you meet someone for the first time do they know right away you are a Christian? How long do you talk until they are clear you are one of God's children? When you are met with adversity in life, does your reaction to this adversity speak well of your faith in God? When you are frustrated
with people or events do you maintain a Christian attitude?
How we carry out our daily lives is a reflection of our faith in God. In
Philippians 1:27, Paul writes "Only let your conduct be as becomes the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you, or else am absent, I may hear of your affairs, that you stand fast in one spirit, striving together with one mind for the faith of the gospel, ". The word conduct is defined as
"personal behavior” or “course of actions". Does your conduct tell folks that you are a child of Christ?
The King James Version of this verse is "Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ:". The original Greek text uses the word
politeuomai translated as conversation. The definition of conversation is described as "to behave as as a citizen; to avail ones self of or recognize the laws; to conduct one's self as pledged to some law of life".
If we are pledging ourselves as followers of Christ then our behavior should always reflect the laws given us by God and recorded in His Word.
And 1Peter 1:15 tells us, "but according to the Holy One who has called you, you also become holy in all conduct,(1:16)because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy." This clearly implies that God is holy and we,
professing to be followers, ought also to be holy.
Examine your conduct. Be sure always to reflect those laws and values and moral codes as God intends. Only then can we be sure the Holy Spirit is in us and that we are alive in Christ.
The ending of this verse," stand fast in one spirit, striving together with one mind for the faith of the gospel " is speaking to our being all of one mind under the influence of the Holy Spirit. We must never provide the enemy with a divided brotherhood, rather a united brethren conveying the gospel of Christ.
Are we presenting to the world a united brethren and modeling always Christian conduct? I pray that we, as disciples of Jesus Christ, know the Word of God well, live by that Word of which we ascribe, and give the enemy only good to say about us who are God's children.

jamesron41 · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2002 Posts: 122

Hey guys! My defintion of being saved was when Jesus died on the cross for us. We are all saved, but some of us still have to find him.

But I also understand that being saved m means what you guys pointed out as well.

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Being saved for me is accepting Jesus as my Saviour and doing my best to walk with God.

Bates15 · Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 10:13 pm Post subject: Being Saved

Please call me Nate, as they do on all the other forums. I know were you are coming from. I read the posts and threads. Interesting te meat you here. Do you play guitar ??? We have another site on that subject. Thats were I met Matt and Jamesron41 (of course I lost his first name..)

Ill be checking in more often. I like just reading about our God and throwing in a line now and then.

Nate

jamesron41 · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2002 Posts: 122

I'm Harry, Nate!

I forgot your name too, there are just so many forums I visit I can't keep up.

Matdvd · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 3:22 am Post subject: Being Saved

Harry!

What's up brother?

Sorry to leave you all hanging fellas and ladies. I had my 2nd wedding anniversary yesterday, and spent most of 4 day weekend with my wonderful wife.

I did from time to time, stop in here, but only to get bad-mouthed with every post. Gotta love it.

Was that you Harry that locked up those threads?

Oh, BTW, do you have CM's email address? The one I have came back unavailable.

Dang, outta time. Gotta leave for work...

jamesron41 · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2002 Posts: 122

Hey Matt! I emailed CM, no response yet. I will send you his address later.

Yep, I did lock and have now deleted threads.

If anything gets out of hand just let me know.

Bates15 · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 11:14 am Post subject: Being Saved

Yo Harry, know the feeling. I to am active on to many forums since I got the cablemodem. got to cut some.

Ron · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:15 pm Post subject: Being Saved

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Magnum PI:
[B] like Ron, Mattdvd et al you cannot handle a legitimate (substantiated) view contrary to your own. ...

You hav not posted anything legitimate or substancial. Just personal attacks and material put out not to enlighten but to enrage.
[quote]" open-minded debate."
We who believe in the Lord God should feel no need to debate it. We are here to fellowship and learn.
[quote]"legitimate argument with valid points and the facts to back them up"

You have not done this at all magnum. You only try to enrage us into argueing. You had me for awhile! My downfall and I have asked for forgiveness. You might also. God Bless.

TOTBS · Newbie Alert Joined: 31 Oct 2002 Posts: 0

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You hav not posted anything legitimate or substan[t]ial. Just personal attacks and material put out not to enlighten but to enrage.

LOL!!!! Easy to say harder to prove. Put your insecure faith where your mouth is and PROVE IT!

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We who believe in the Lord God should feel no need to debate it. We are here to fellowship and learn.

Ignorance is bliss....

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"legitimate argument with valid points and the facts to back them up"

You have not done this at all magnum. You only try to enrage us into argueing.

Easy to say...harder to prove. Put your insecure faith where you mouth is and PROVE IT!

Heavenly Home · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 9:02 pm Post subject: Being Saved

well, yes you can fall out of this position.. its called backsliding.. God will never leave yopu. But you can leave him

Tiger75 · Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 12:55 am Post subject: Being Saved

[Quote: What does being saved mean to you? How do/did you become saved? Can one fall out of this position?]

Re: Being Saved

Hi Ron, Tiger75 here - New Member. Good topic for discussion, however. like a big mattress hard to handle; no clear way to pick it up! The thought of "being saved" is really interesting because when are we saved? Here's a few verses from the bible which makes it, "Being Saved" past, present and future! [The Bible being the final authority in all these discussions.]

Past Tense

"who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began," 2 Timothy 1:9

Present Tense

"Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" Philippians 2:12

Future Tense

"And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed." Romans 13:11

So can I say 'I have it'? And contrary can I say 'I can lose it'?

I think when it comes to a person being saved we have to look at it objectively i.e. 'Who' is doing the saving then we can rest in assurance like it says

"being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;" Philippians 1:6

[This message has been edited by Tiger75 (edited 10-15-2002).]

victoria · Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 4:11 pm Post subject: Being Saved

Being save means, being in Christ. If you are outside of Christ, then, you are not in a saved state. The question becomes how do you get, in Christ. Ephesians 1:7-14 expressess that we have redemption, through His Blood, the forgiveness of our sins. It is apparent in these verses and many others, which I will not quote, that one must come in contact with that saving blood in order for salvation to occur. This is an unpopular to may, but then, the truth sometimes is, but none the less it is a fact which can not be refuted if one reads the Word. In study, one can see that it is in Him that all gifts occur which are a result of that salvation. In Acts 2:38F, one must be baptised and it is in that process, that we receive the indwelling of the Spirit. It has that the Spirit in giving to those afar off, which is us. Coming in contact with the blood occurs in one place and one place only, and that is baptism for the remission of your sins. In baptism we reinact His death, burial and resurection. The scripture is clear about this.

Falling out of Christ can occur, or the New Testament writers thought so or they wasted alot of pen and voice, for they expressed it repeatedly by exhorting and begging the churches to remain faithful. In 1 John 1, he speaks of walking in the light, and the blood and it's cleansing power. The greek indicates a continual, on-going cleansing. In my own study, I have come way looking at walking in the light as not living a life with a habit of sin. In other words, I may fall and I do, but I am striving and have a heart that wants to be what my Lord wants. I am but a human with a sin nature. God can not be fooled and I believe with all of my heart, that God, ultimately, does business with our heart. I can not do enough good stuff to counter my sinfulness, even though I am trying. God is too pure and I am not. But God knows that I am trying even though I do mess up. I think of my life like a garden, and sin like weeds in my garden. As I am walking through the garden of life, I see these crummy little weeds. I reach down and yank the little suckers out then. I do not wait until they are full grown trees. A life with a habit of sin is full rebellion toward God and his will and it lets the weeds just grow and take over the garden. Therefore, if I openly rebel and turn from God, then I believe I can be lost still. Or at least the bible indicates that to be the case in that it said it is really bad for the one that knows God and turns away. There is some really hard stuff in those verses.
For me the bottom line is that it is because of His Plan and His Act that I have been availed the opportunity to have salvation, not my goodness. I do need to be in Him, through putting Him on and being his Child in the way that He tells me. Thank God, He sees me through His Son.
God Bless, V