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theseldomscene
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| Quote: | | Really? What happened to them? |
that is the question that has been asked for six years now...
| Quote: | | What proof is there that they even existed? |
that is easy...the numnber of peole that voted from the districts...against the number of ballots found...not hard...
| Quote: | | and what count has there been that indicates that the imaginary 6000 votes would have made a difference? The margin of victory was more than 30 times 6000. |
really...bush won florida by 180000 votes...where?...
| Quote: | | You have demonstrated in this thread that you don't fully understand what 'the facts' are, so how could you 'keep them straight'? |
look...your little goofy insults and put down are really getting old and no mod's cap you wear will keep me from saying you act like a hateful moron...and you have made some of the stupidest and most uninformed remarks in this forum that have been made(especailly in regards to the iraq war)...so...back at you...if you don't know what you are talking about fine...but don't prance around like you do and acting like those that do don't... 
the new york times has done a very insight and informative article...fair and balanced..on this point...i will see if i can find it for you.. |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | your little goofy insults and put down are really getting old and no mod's cap you wear will keep me from saying you act like a hateful moron. |
At least you are true to form.
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and you have made some of the stupidest and most uninformed remarks in this forum that have been made(especailly in regards to the iraq war). |
Really? Where?
| Quote: | | .if you don't know what you are talking about fine...but don't prance around like you do and acting like those that do don't... |
I'm sorry, but you have demonstrated in this thread that you don't know what you are talking about, I simply pointed out the facts.
| Quote: | | no mod's cap you wear will keep me from saying you act like a hateful moron |
Wow! I must be coming up the ladder... I went from a lying, murdering nazi to a hateful moron. Thanks for the promotion. |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:48 am Post subject: |
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you are welcome...and you have not pointed out all the facts...do some research uless you are afraid the truth will damage you somehow...
the n.y. times has plenty of good and insightful info...read it... |
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RevJP
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Done the research. Every study, every count, every scenario leads to the same conclusion - Bush won fairly, he would've won regardless because Gore simply did not have enough votes in Florida to beat him.
That is the one, all-telling fact that you cannot deny and still be considered honest.
However, if it would make you feel better you can call me a few more names to relieve your angst.... |
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theseldomscene
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and no it was not a "going from one to the other"...just an addendum...
in the other thread you came out like some spiritual adviser and gave all this advise about what we say here and what you are tired of...and we try to put that behind us and move forward...and you come back babbling trash , digging up what you said you wanted to stop because i showed your "facts" are full of snot..
you are not tired of it...you are just tired of being opposed...no matter how wrong you are, you think none shoud point it out... |
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| theseldomscene wrote: | | yeah...just nevermind the "fact" 6000 votes from black (mostly democrat) community's disappeared and were never counted ...in an election that was won by a few hundred votes...how convenient...that makes all the difference...and with the admin of the state beng in his party and his family...i think "stole" is a very appropriate word... |
TSS... would you be so kind as to provide some type of citation for this. Something concrete...
I read somewhere that Gore had actually won his home state of Tennessee in the 2000 election... but, looking at the results, that wasn't true either. Perhaps you are correct... I'd just like to see a little proof before we give him the presidency. |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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angst=philosophy in existentialist philosophy, a feeling of dread arising from an awareness of free choice.
what are you talking about?...do you even know?... |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | TSS... would you be so kind as to provide some type of citation for this. Something concrete... |
| tss wrote: | | the n.y. times has plenty of good and insightful info... |
| Quote: | | I'd just like to see a little proof before we give him the presidency. |
i didn't really want gore as president either...  ... |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | in the other thread you came out like some spiritual adviser and gave all this advise about what we say here and what you are tired of...and we try to put that behind us and move forward...and you come back babbling trash , digging up what you said you wanted to stop because i showed your "facts" are full of snot..
you are not tired of it...you are just tired of being opposed...no matter how wrong you are, you think none shoud point it out... |
Really? Let us look at the FACTS. This is what I posted:
| Quote: | Trinity has stated the facts, as they existed at the time. Can one argue the facts?
One interesting thing needs to be pointed out: Bush won, fair and square. All the individual firms, news agencies, etc. that had done their own recounts after the fact (I know of 6 recounts by differing agencies) have demonstrated the same thing: Bush won. The margin was small, but the numbers do not lie: Bush would have won Florida no matter how the cake was sliced.
Of course all the whiney lefty's don't tell you that when they wrongly assert that Bush 'stole' the election. |
| Quote: | Why do you care TSS? You don't vote anyway so what does it matter to you if all votes were counted or not?
BTW, two news agencies counted every single vote whether or not the courts decided they 'qualified' or not. The results were the same - Bush won, and would've won.
Facts are facts, you can't deny them just because you don't like them. |
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Really? What happened to them? What proof is there that they even existed? and what count has there been that indicates that the imaginary 6000 votes would have made a difference? The margin of victory was more than 30 times 6000.
You have demonstrated in this thread that you don't fully understand what 'the facts' are, so how could you 'keep them straight'? |
Those posts served to garner this most brilliant and benevolent response from you:
| Quote: | | your little goofy insults and put down are really getting old and no mod's cap you wear will keep me from saying you act like a hateful moron...and you have made some of the stupidest and most uninformed remarks in this forum that have been made(especailly in regards to the iraq war)...so...back at you...if you don't know what you are talking about fine...but don't prance around like you do and acting like those that do don't |
So my use of the term 'whiney lefty's' was somehow a goofy insult that demonstrated that I acted like a hateful moron? and my pointing out that the facts of the counts stand a proof of the truth qualifies as 'some of the stupidist and uniformed remarks in this forum that have ever been made...'?
I would ask everyone's opinion on this. Was I hatefully moronic? Did I say the stupidst remarks? Was 'whiney lefty' deserving of the response I received? |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I would ask everyone's opinion on this. |
ok...
| Quote: | | Was I hatefully moronic? |
yes...
| Quote: | | Did I say the stupidst remarks? |
yes...
| Quote: | | Was 'whiney lefty' deserving of the response I received? |
that was not the one that got you that response... |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: |
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i | TSS wrote: | | n the other thread you came out like some spiritual adviser and gave all this advise about what we say here and what you are tired of...and we try to put that behind us and move forward...and you come back babbling trash , digging up what you said you wanted to stop because i showed your "facts" are full of snot.. |
For the record, this is what I said:
| Quote: | A lot of hurtful things have been said in these threads. Many of which still stand out there for the world to see with nothing but justifications and avoidances from the people that have said them.
I remember a time when Christians thought of and spoke of forgiveness. I remember a line out of the Lord's prayer which says "forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us", and another scripture which talks about seeking forgiveness from those you have wronged.
Somehow we, christians, have foregone the idea of seeking forgiveness from those we have wronged in favor of justifying our sins and avoiding the issue. |
I bolded the last line as a wayfinder to this:
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RevJP:
Wow! I must be coming up the ladder... I went from a lying, murdering nazi to a hateful moron. Thanks for the promotion.
TSS:
and no it was not a "going from one to the other"...just an addendum... |
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theseldomscene
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| jp wrote: | | I went from a lying, murdering nazi to a hateful moron. Thanks for the promotion |
| theseldomscene wrote: | | ...in the other thread you came out like some spiritual adviser and gave all this advise about what we say here and what you are tired of...and we try to put that behind us and move forward and we try to put that behind us and move forward...and you come back babbling trash , digging up what you said you wanted to stop ... |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | have foregone the idea of seeking forgiveness from those we have wronged in favor of justifying our sins and avoiding the issue. |
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theseldomscene
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are you saying you actually would want me to say that i don't think this war is nazism in its truest form?...i can't...i feel in my heart that would be a lie...
i don't know what you are wanting here...an apology for hurting you with my feelings on this issue...i tried that once...did you forget?...you spit it back in my face.... |
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| theseldomscene wrote: | | [the n.y. times has plenty of good and insightful info... |
Is there a link I can go to so I can view what they have found?
| Quote: | | Quote: | | I'd just like to see a little proof before we give him the presidency. |
i didn't really want gore as president either... ... |
Just the thought of it makes me suicidal!!! Having that knuckle head lecturing to us everynight in his condenscending tone... ugh... it sends shivers down my spine. at least with BUsh... well... he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer.  |
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