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theseldomscene
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i must say...i don't think gore's speeches would really bother me...but that is because i don't think i could stay awake through them  ...
bush...well...atleast he can hold ones attention while he talks whether they like what he says or not... |
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RevJP
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| TSS wrote: | | are you saying you actually would want me to say that i don't think this war is nazism in its truest form?...i can't...i feel in my heart that would be a lie... |
Not at all. Although the nazi's were facists and I have a hard time finding any inkling of facism on our part in the war in Iraq.
| Quote: | | i don't know what you are wanting here...an apology for hurting you with my feelings on this issue...i tried that once...did you forget?...you spit it back in my face.... |
I don't think you are too clear on the facts here. Your 'apology' completely lacked sincereity - by your own proud admission. Plus you repeated the offending comments numerous times after the feigned apology. I did not 'spit' anything back in your face, I just pointed out the insincereity invovled.
For the record, your 'feelings' aren't offensive, they are afterall how you feel. It was your insistence on the insults, even after being made aware that those insults were offensive to those you have called 'friends'. It was the cavalier way you through out that garbage and sneered at those who made it known to you that they were offended by it. It was, and is, your continued avoidance of the truth of the matter as if nothing ever happened.
We are human, we say and do things that hurt others - I accept that, in fact I am all too aware that I am seriously flawed in this area. What we, as Christians, are supposed to do is forgive, repent, and seek forgiveness. I've seen little of this from you in this regard.
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="RevJP"] | Quote: | | I did not 'spit' anything back in your face, I just pointed out the insincereity invovled. |
no sir...you just brushed it off with one of your ..."look at me i am all that and a bag of chips" lectures...
| Quote: | | It was your insistence on the insults, even after being made aware that those insults were offensive to those you have called 'friends'. It was the cavalier way you through out that garbage and sneered at those who made it known to you that they were offended by it. |
gee...maybe you should simply ask why...oh man i did it now...another long lecture about how you are not concerned with that blah blah blah...
| Quote: | | It was, and is, your continued avoidance of the truth of the matter as if nothing ever happened. |
i must say this is just not true...i know it happened...and all have moved forward from it but you...
| Quote: | | What we, as Christians, are supposed to do is forgive, repent, and seek forgiveness. I've seen little of this from you in this regard. |
nor i you...so what is your point?...besides your finger at me for the same thing you do....
if you think i was insincere for calling you friend...fine...i retract that as well...maybe thinking that was the case was simply my mistake...and please save the show yourself friendly verse...that could go both ways here...
so once again...what are you wanting from me...an apology...fine...sorry... |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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oh yeah before i forget...
| jp wrote: | | Plus you repeated the offending comments numerous times after the feigned apology |
plus you have brought it back up numerous times since my retraction...even when all was going fine...like you did in this thread and others...crying about it over and over again...so one more time...
sorry...
but you keep bringing up forgiveness...showing it is you that has the problem with it...how is that for "facts"?...i for one don't need an apology from someone to forgive them....but since you have made plain you do...now you hvae got it...
i can't help the sincerity part....i really find the whole war situation disgusting.....and i was ordered to apologize when i brought up to some in my study group what had transpired...that is no lie...but i just don't feel like i said anything that was not true...but have said i won't say it anymore...but nooooo...here comes jp...slinging that same hash again...
now i have apologized if my remarks hurt you.... |
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RevJP
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Fair enough.
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I think you guys should remember that you're both Christians and that I'm the real enemy here... 
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RevJP
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I have no enemies P123... certainly not someone like you who is just misguided... 
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IronSharpensIron
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So what about the original question-creating an industry out of a lie? 
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P1234567890
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| RevJP wrote: | Why do you care TSS? You don't vote anyway so what does it matter to you if all votes were counted or not?
BTW, two news agencies counted every single vote whether or not the courts decided they 'qualified' or not. The results were the same - Bush won, and would've won.
Facts are facts, you can't deny them just because you don't like them. |
Can you please cite the recount reports? I've never seen them.
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Trinity1
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| P1234567890 wrote: | | I think you guys should remember that you're both Christians and that I'm the real enemy here... |
No P.... you are not the enemy. You are serving him whether you know it or not... but you are not the enemy. As Christians, the only thing we can do is try to point you to Christ... albeit... some of us (yes that includes me) don't do a very good job of it. 
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P1234567890
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No P.... you are not the enemy. You are serving him whether you know it or not... but you are not the enemy. As Christians, the only thing we can do is try to point you to Christ... albeit... some of us (yes that includes me) don't do a very good job of it. |
How am I serving God?
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RevJP
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I think Trinity meant OUR enemy, not YOUR enemy....
But, when one thinks about it, you are serving God whether you like it or not or want to or not. Just look at what you made Trinity confess to! Satan couldn't have got him to voice that realization, only God could, through Trinity's interactions with you.
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| RevJP wrote: | I think Trinity meant OUR enemy, not YOUR enemy....
But, when one thinks about it, you are serving God whether you like it or not or want to or not. Just look at what you made Trinity confess to! Satan couldn't have got him to voice that realization, only God could, through Trinity's interactions with you. |
Are you saying that all my debating here is doing some good?
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RevJP
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Yes, it is doing good. It is clarifying the fact that some people, no matter how apparently intelligent they are, can be so horribly misguided...
Thanks for that demonstration P...
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P1234567890
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| RevJP wrote: | Yes, it is doing good. It is clarifying the fact that some people, no matter how apparently intelligent they are, can be so horribly misguided...
Thanks for that demonstration P... |
I knew there was a catch!
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