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Trinity1
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 Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: Democrats - Talking Points |
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Thoughts on this article?
What is the glaring omission of this Muslim? Anyone?
Here is his position:
| Quote: | | Hossain said the group does not have a political affiliation and attempts to be nonpartisan. He said the PAC is endorsing Webb and the Democratic House candidates in Northern Virginia based on their views on civil liberties, human rights, immigration, foreign policy, health care and education. |
I think the talking points from AL Jeezeera could come straight form our leaders in the democratic party today. It almost makes me sick to me stomach.
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Come on Trinity, aren't you blurring some lines here? Not all Muslims are the enemy. For example, do you really think that the Virginia Muslims in the article are some kind of terrorists?
You can disagree with the Democrats if you want, but what you're doing is tantamount to accusing them of betraying America. They're just as patriotic as you are. You just have different views on how to get things done.
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RevJP
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| P123... wrote: | | aren't you blurring some lines here? |
Isn't that supposed to be standard practice around here? 
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| P1234567890 wrote: | | You can disagree with the Democrats if you want, but what you're doing is tantamount to accusing them of betraying America. They're just as patriotic as you are. You just have different views on how to get things done. |
I'm accusing them of having the same talking points and criticisms of our President and our country... if that places them in the same category, or makes them look weak... I am only going by what they are doing and what they are saying. If they don't like sharing the same opinions as OBL... get some new opinions or talking points.
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Trinity1
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 and there was silence at B-D... 
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Its like... almost deafening...
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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You really need me to respond? You basically accused the Democrats of being in bed with Osama...
What do you want me to say? That it's absurd?
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FFT
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It's a brand new form of reductio ad Hitlerum!
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| Quote: | | It's a brand new form of reductio ad Hitlerum! |
Brand new? Should we go through these threads and see how many times people have compared others to hitler? 
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| RevJP wrote: | | Brand new? Should we go through these threads and see how many times people have compared others to hitler? |
Uh, hence "new." I don't think you understand what I was saying. Now, instead of reduction to Hitler, it's reduction to Islam. Now we can label people as evil just for having things in common with Muslims!
Do you pray? Muslims pray! You're evil!
Do you live in a house? Muslims live in houses! You're evil!
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Or my personal favorite:
You don't like Bush?
Neither does Osama!
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You're evil AND unpatriotic!
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Trinity1
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The point is, the left (Mertha) says our Marines are War Criminals before an investigation is even conducted. Al Queda and those whom we are fighting say our troops are war criminals. See the similarities?
A senate minority leader accuses our soldiers of terrorizing Iraqi women and children in the middle of the night. Our enemies accuse our soldiers of being terrorists. See the similarities?
Al Jezeera airs videos of insurgents killing soldiers. CNN airs video of a sniper killing our soldiers. See the similarities?
These similarities can be drawn ad nauseam... need I go on?
If you are uttering the same mantra as our enemy. Taking the same side of the issues as our enemies. Drawing moral equivalencies of what our soldiers are doing as that of what our enemies are doing… perhaps what you are doing is not being patriotic as you have continued to affirm…
(You being a generic term here and not meant to be directed at anyone in particular – please folks don’t take it personally) I started this thread to illustrate where our left wing has gone too.
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FFT
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not entirely sure why I'm bothering but okay
| Trinity1 wrote: | | The point is, the left (Mertha) says our Marines are War Criminals before an investigation is even conducted. |
The left is embodied entirely within a single person? K.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | Al Queda and those whom we are fighting say our troops are war criminals. |
This is common when being attacked.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | See the similarities? |
One person says the Marines are war criminals and thus the entire left does, and our enemy says the Marines are war criminals because they are being attacked. Are there similarities? Yes. Are they relevant? No.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | A senate minority leader accuses our soldiers of terrorizing Iraqi women and children in the middle of the night. |
Aren't they?
| Trinity1 wrote: | | Our enemies accuse our soldiers of being terrorists. |
If they're causing terror, then yes, they're terrorists.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | See the similarities? |
Are there similarities? Yes. Are they relevant? No.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | Al Jezeera airs videos of insurgents killing soldiers. |
For moral support of the followers and to disenhearten their enemies. K.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | CNN airs video of a sniper killing our soldiers. |
Because there was a sniper killing our soldiers. 
| Trinity1 wrote: | | See the similarities? |
Are there similarities? Yes. Are they relevant? No.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | These similarities can be drawn ad nauseam... need I go on? |
I could go at long length comparing you to Hitler. Would it be relevant?
| Trinity1 wrote: | | If you are uttering the same mantra as our enemy. |
What mantra?
| Trinity1 wrote: | | Taking the same side of the issues as our enemies. |
"The issues" is pretty general. Especially considering that it's only happening for very specific issues.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | Drawing moral equivalencies of what our soldiers are doing as that of what our enemies are doing… |
Torture is torture, Trinity.
| Trinity1 wrote: | | perhaps what you are doing is not being patriotic as you have continued to affirm… |
Nothing is as patriotic as dissent. Blind partisanship and mindless obedience are not patriotism.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| FFT wrote: | | Trinity1 wrote: | | If you are uttering the same mantra as our enemy. |
What mantra?
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well....back before HE came along and found me...i got into eastern style meditation..and according to the books i read...there was this formula that was used with my birthday and some other info that somehow was changed to letters to spell my mantra...it equaled out to say "mophta"...maybe that is what he means... 
also...good post on the rest fft... |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Trinity1 wrote: | The point is, the left (Mertha) says our Marines are War Criminals before an investigation is even conducted. Al Queda and those whom we are fighting say our troops are war criminals. See the similarities?
A senate minority leader accuses our soldiers of terrorizing Iraqi women and children in the middle of the night. Our enemies accuse our soldiers of being terrorists. See the similarities? |
Trinity, just because someone criticizes America, that doesn't automatically make them Osama-lovers!
Take me, for example. I think that America is one of the greatest countries on Earth. I'm not even American, but I feel very badly for your troops who have to be over there, constantly afraid of being killed; it must totally suck.
But certainly the current American foreign policy is unenlightened at the least, and at worst it's criminal aggression. Should people be criticizing it? YES! ABSOLUTELY! You guys seriously need to reconsider a bunch of policies, or your country is in BIG trouble. How do you get politicians to change policies? An important step in the process is criticizing the policies!
Now, just because I criticize America, that doesn't mean I don't like America. And it CERTAINLY doesn't mean that I'm allied with Osama Bin Laden. I think he's a considerably worse person than even Dick Cheney, and that takes some doing! He's a completely evil man, and if he were to have his way, the world would revert back to a primitive state unseen since medieval times.
And I'm MUCH less patriotic than Democratic politicians who have dedicated their lives to serving the American people... So you really shouldn't accuse them of being allied with the enemy; they're not. They hate Osama as much as you do.
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"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
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