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RevJP
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| Quote: | | You think any of the guys that'd be shooting at our planes have any experience doing so that would help them figure out how much they'd need to lead by? |
Yeah.
| Quote: | | 2. Building uranium-gun nuclear bombs is trivial, but the uranium is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive. The entire budget of Iraq would not have been sufficient for building a uranium bomb. |
| Quote: | | The prospect of Saddam building a nuclear bomb and using it or selling it to terrorists was IMPOSSIBLE. |
A dirty bomb is fairly easy to build, and horribly destructive in its own way. Only those who try to diminish the idea of the Iraqi nuclear thread would ignore all other aspects of nuclear explosives technology....
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FFT
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: | | Quote: | | You think any of the guys that'd be shooting at our planes have any experience doing so that would help them figure out how much they'd need to lead by? |
Yeah. |
Where'd they get it? Do you understand what I'm talking about? |
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| FFT wrote: | | RevJP wrote: | | Quote: | | You think any of the guys that'd be shooting at our planes have any experience doing so that would help them figure out how much they'd need to lead by? |
Yeah. |
Where'd they get it? Do you understand what I'm talking about? |
Um... I understand exactly what you are talking about and I learned this I think the 3rd week of Basic Training... it might have been the 4th... I really can't remember... but the point is virtually every soldier... regardless what Army they are in, learns how to lead aircraft when engaging them with small arms.
Do you understand how soldiers are trained… not only initially, but through repetition throughout their careers?
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| P1234567890 wrote: | | Trinity1 wrote: |
Yet he still had enough money to build several palaces, bribe members of the UN Security Council, and issue contracts on oil fields in his country once the sanctions were lifted... He had plenty of money. The people didn't have anything... but the Baath Party members lived like fat cats while 95% of the country suffered! |
I agree, but that doesn't mean that he had the resources needed to build nuclear weapons. |
And who cares? He had WMD... and was pursuing Nuclear Technology.
| Quote: | Here are two facts that are absolutely true and cannot be denied:
1. The Iraqi scientists to this day don't know how to build implosion-style plutonium bombs (these are the cheapest nuclear bombs to build).
2. Building uranium-gun nuclear bombs is trivial, but the uranium is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive. The entire budget of Iraq would not have been sufficient for building a uranium bomb. |
Fine...
| Quote: | Bottom line: The prospect of Saddam building a nuclear bomb and using it or selling it to terrorists was IMPOSSIBLE. And the White House knew this. You think they don't have nuclear experts? They have the best nuclear experts on the planet, and every single one of them would tell you exactly what I am telling you here.
In other words, when Rumsfeld and Cheney and everyone else in the administration was on EVERY SINGLE morning program in America talking about "mushroom clouds" where Manhattan used to be, they were TELLING LIES.
And when they were saying that there were concrete links between Saddam and Al Quaeda, they were TELLING LIES. |
Rumsfeld, Cheney, and everyone else in the adminstration never stated that Iraq had nuclear weapons. They stated that he was pusuing the technology... nothing more. That is the fact. This 'mushroom cloud' mantra is pointless verses what was stated before the war.
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FFT
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Trinity1 wrote: | Um... I understand exactly what you are talking about and I learned this I think the 3rd week of Basic Training... it might have been the 4th... I really can't remember... but the point is virtually every soldier... regardless what Army they are in, learns how to lead aircraft when engaging them with small arms.
Do you understand how soldiers are trained… not only initially, but through repetition throughout their careers? |
Did they train using real aircraft, or anything actually moving at the speeds necessary to get even the idea of how much to lead a jet when firing at it with a rifle? |
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| FFT wrote: | | Trinity1 wrote: | Um... I understand exactly what you are talking about and I learned this I think the 3rd week of Basic Training... it might have been the 4th... I really can't remember... but the point is virtually every soldier... regardless what Army they are in, learns how to lead aircraft when engaging them with small arms.
Do you understand how soldiers are trained… not only initially, but through repetition throughout their careers? |
Did they train using real aircraft, or anything actually moving at the speeds necessary to get even the idea of how much to lead a jet when firing at it with a rifle? |
Actually, we would 'fire' at our own aircraft when they were 'suppressing' enemy concentrations during field training exercises. There are several different approaches you have to know how to engage... aircraft coming at you, moving away from you... height... distance... it is not an exact science by any stretch, but there are basic principles you need to apply when engaging them.
Now, with that said... if you have enough of them firing at you constantly... eventually, one of them is going to find its mark... and that was the point!
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‘The German Führer, as I have consistently maintained, is an evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution.’ Sir Arthur Keith |
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FFT
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| Trinity1 wrote: | | Now, with that said... if you have enough of them firing at you constantly... eventually, one of them is going to find its mark... and that was the point! |
So, you mean, if the odds of an event are being tested constantly, eventually the event occurs? |
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Trinity1
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| FFT wrote: | | Trinity1 wrote: | | Now, with that said... if you have enough of them firing at you constantly... eventually, one of them is going to find its mark... and that was the point! |
So, you mean, if the odds of an event are being tested constantly, eventually the event occurs? |
When intent, purpose, and a mechanism is present... I don't see why not.
Do you?
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