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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: it's all about love Reply with quote

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Luk 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

Luk 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.

and you shall know them by their fruit..

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Jam 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, [and] easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Lone!

Good to see you again! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Morning HeKkler,
So good to see you too!!

1Th 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Isa 54:13 And all thy children [shall be] taught of the LORD; and great [shall be] the peace of thy children.

1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

how are we taught?

school of lifelong learning LOL

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really needed to see these scriptures today. Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Admin!!

I really want to thank you for getting the forum back up...

Boy did I miss you guys...
I thought about you all, all the time hoping everybody was doing good..

doin headstands here..

yeehawww!!!

Love you all
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: LOVE [agape] = BIBLICAL LOVE? MORE and MORE IN ALL .....? Reply with quote

(Philippians 1:9) And this I pray, that your LOVE [agape] may abound yet MORE and MORE = in= KNOWLEDGE -and- = in= ALL JUDGMENT;

The Expression of GOD, = IS IN = Three Distinct HOLY Persons, The FATHER, The Son [Christ Jesus] and The Holy Spirit = IS EXPRESSED in the Facets of LOVE [Agape].

LOVE = KNOWLDEGE = JUDGMENT = LOVE = KNOWLDEGE= JUDGMENT = LOVE

(1Corinthians 12:1) Now concerning Spiritual Gifts, -brethren,- I would not have = YOU = IGNORANT.

LOVE [ agape ] does not Stand ALONE! IF LOVE it really there - it will be Balanced with "KNOWLEDGE -and- ALL JUDGEMENT" IT WILL NOT EXCUSE OR MAKE EXCUSES FOR SIN! Adultery, Lying and all the others! Perhaps a reading of Romans 13:9?

Just to say I LOVE [Agape] = Is Incomplete, = JUST AS FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD - So LOVE [AGAPE] without Knowledge and Judgment, is Also Barren!

PLEASE Allow me to illustrate? "TRUE WORSHIP" - Must by the WORDS of Jesus = must be in Spirit and In Truth!

(John 4:23-24) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the True Worshippers = shall worship = the Father = in Spirit and in Truth: for the Father seeketh such - TO Worship HIM.
(John 4:24) God is a Spirit: and they that Worship HIM [GOD] must worship HIM - in Spirit and in Truth.

(Leviticus 10:1-2) And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and Offered Strange Fire before the LORD, which HE [GOD] Commanded Them NOT!
(Lev 10:2) And there went out FIRE = from the LORD, and = devoured them, = and they died before the LORD.

CAN TRUE LOVE [ AGAPE ] NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD AND THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD = DISPLAYED?

TO SAY ONE CAN "ONLY LOVE GOD" -and- NOT KNOW AND EXPRESS THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE JUDGMENT OF GOD = IS TO PRESENT AN = UNBALANCED LOVE OF GOD!

DID Paul by the Holy Spirit = SPEAK OF THE LOVE OF GOD = to Timothy when He SAID: 2Timothy 2:15 & 2Tim 3:16-17?

DID Paul by the Holy Spirit = SPEAK OF THE JUDGMENT OF GOD = to the Conrinthians when He SAID: "1Corinthians 5:1-13 & 1Cor 6:1-20"

An UNBALANCED DISPLAY OF THE LOVE OF GOD = WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE -and- JUDGMENT = IS NOT GOOD!

(Philippians 1:9) And this I pray, that your LOVE [agape] may abound yet more and more = in= knowledge -and- = in= all judgment;

(Ecclesiastes 8:11) Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, = therefore the heart of the sons of men = is fully set in them = TO DO EVIL.

(Acts 5:11) And great Fear [OF GOD] came upon -all- the church, -and- upon as many as heard these things.

PERHAPS = we should FORGET the Beetle song = Love, Love, Love?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Roger...

I was thinking...( I do that a lot Laughing )

and you wrote these verses:
(Leviticus 10:1-2) And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and Offered Strange Fire before the LORD, which HE [GOD] Commanded Them NOT!
(Lev 10:2) And there went out FIRE = from the LORD, and = devoured them, = and they died before the LORD.

And I'm seeing the fire as judgement and the incense as knowledge, and because they relied upon their own concoction instead of letting God do the judging and giving the knowledge, they were devoured...

I think I'll let God do his Job and I'll just stick with the love part.

2Ch 20:12 O our God, wilt thou not judge them? for we have no might against this great company that cometh against us; neither know we what to do: but our eyes [are] upon thee.

Psa 50:6 And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God [is] judge himself. Selah.

Eze 18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn [yourselves] from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

1Cr 13:2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

1Cr 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away.

2Cr 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to [give] the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

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TO SAY ONE CAN "ONLY LOVE GOD" -and- NOT KNOW AND EXPRESS THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE JUDGMENT OF GOD = IS TO PRESENT AN = UNBALANCED LOVE OF GOD!


Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Jam 3:13 Who [is] a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

1Jo 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

1Jo 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Psa 5:11 But let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee.

You have to have knowledge of God in order to Love Him and the Judgement we are to have is towards oneself.
But we are not to judge another that is God's decision how, when and where one is judged.
So it all depends on what kind of knowledge and what kind of judgement that is to be balanced with love.

We are told to Love God with all our heart, mind and soul, and to love our neighbour as ourselves. These are the commandments which:

Jhn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jhn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

1Jo 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

This last verse just popped out at me...LOL..

And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

walk in what? And this is ..love....

you know...
I have enough trouble keeping myself out of trouble...how can I judge somebody else when I'm definately not perfect myself to begin with?
I'd be walking around with beams sticking out both my eyes LOL..
I'd be the pot calling the kettle black...
I'm not perfect by no means...just listening and sharing the love of God with you all.
and I'm a smoker too..wish this habit would bite the dust but it's not an easy battle..
I'm not afraid to admit I'm not perfect..I'd be lying if I said I was.
And only God is right all the time...and I'm not God...But striving to get closer to him each day.

God Bless You Roger
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: GOD'S RESPONSE? Reply with quote

(2Thesallonians 1:4-5-6) So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
(2Th 1:5) Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
(2Th 1:6) Seeing it is a righteous thing with God = = to recompense tribulation = = to them that trouble you;

Thanks, RR

p.s. GOD IS NOT = POLITICALLY CORRECT!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: LOVE YOU ENEMIES? Reply with quote

HOW ABOUT GOD'S ENEMIES? How about some answers?

***(2Chronicles 19:2) And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, = = = Shouldest thou help the ungodly, = = = and love them that hate the LORD? = = =Therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

***(Jude 1:3-4) Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
(Jude 1:4) For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

***(2Timothy 3:2-to-9) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(2Ti 3:3) Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(2Ti 3:4) Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(2Ti 3:5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(2Ti 3:6) For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(2Ti 3:7) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
(2Ti 3:8) Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
(2Ti 3:9) But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more [than others]? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Matthew chapter 5.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:08 am    Post subject: OBEY GOD.....! Reply with quote

(ActS 5:29) Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought = = To Obey God = = rather than men.

WHAT DOES THAT VERSE HAVE TO DO = WITH GOD'S ENEMIES AS LISTED IN THE PREVIOUS POSTING?

I know quiet well, the WORDS of Jesus, and still, THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY COIN [IDEA].

PLEASE take you Bible and check out what I am saying = IN THE LOVE OF CHRIST! No, I am not yelling because I use caps, I am trying to make a point.

Those listed in the previous posting ARE REPROBRATE! Are we to pray for these? How about those = TWICE DEAD, are we to pray for these? How about these, are we to pray for these?

(Jude 1:3-4) Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, = it was needful for me to write unto you, = and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
(Jude 1:4) For there are certain men crept in unawares, = who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men,= = turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, = = and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

DO WE PRAY FOR THOSE who destroy the faith, who turn GOD'S grace into LASCIVIOUSNESS, and Deny GOD and JESUS?

I KNOW NOT = FOR THEY ARE THE SONS OF PERDITION! For the Christians durning the time of Tribulation, ARE THEY TO PRAY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST - WHO ARE SLATED FOR ETERNAL DAMNATION?

I KNOW NOT!

(Hebrews 5:12-13-14) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
(Heb 5:13) For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
(Heb 5:14) But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Thanks, RR
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:
DO WE PRAY FOR THOSE who destroy the faith, who turn GOD'S grace into LASCIVIOUSNESS, and Deny GOD and JESUS?

Those listed in the previous posting ARE REPROBRATE! Are we to pray for these? How about those = TWICE DEAD, are we to pray for these? How about these, are we to pray for these?

ARE THEY TO PRAY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST - WHO ARE SLATED FOR ETERNAL DAMNATION?


Roger....
Did Jesus pray for us? were we perfect before someone prayed for us? Did the apostles pray for us? were we better than they before we learned the truth of Love in God?

Do you believe in the power of prayer? Do you believe that God hears our prayers?
Do you believe God has the ability to turn those from evil to love and faith and truth?

And if 1 prayer can make the sun stand still for a day.....think about the many prayers that are spoken for those who are lost or misguided.

Is it not our calling to walk as christ walked? Is God a respector of persons?
I thank God that I was prayed for...whether I know the person who prayed for me or not..but I believe someone spoke for me if not the Lord himself.

are we given the ability to even pull those out of the fire? Then who are we to decide who fries and who doesn't? I believe we are to pray for all men everywhere at all times. God made both good and evil. I believe he made the good to save the evil.

He blessed us with compassion and Love and long suffering and all the fruits of the spirit, and he expects us to use them to the best of our abilities.
Forgiveness is difficult, but where would we be if God didn't forgive us? Are we better at judging a man's soul than God himself?
We are his tools and he has given us the power to love our enemies and to overcome hostility and adversity. It's up to us to exercise those tools we have been blessed with....

so are we to pray for those that are listed above?

I believe even more so, because they are lost and we are the only lights they have to show them the way.

The true power of God lies in our ability to love one another through him.
Sometimes we may ask ourselves..what for...? God knows the answer to that one...
Does praying for someone who is lost to be saved make a person right or wrong in the eyes of God?

Ask yourself...
what would Jesus do?
Or what did he already do?.....for the whole world...
Did Jesus die for some or all?

I don't think God wants us to give up on those that need our prayers the most...thats my honest opinion Roger.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: DOES ANYONE EVEN READ THE HOLY SCRIPTURES ? ? ? Reply with quote

WHAT = WOULD = JESUS = DO . . . ?

Does that PRE-Suppose = the PRESENCE of Jesus = = or = = the ABSENCE of JESUS? ? ?

THOSE who are Lost and Misguided = May be those spoken about in John 10:16 . . .

BUT there is certaintly Another GROUP = of which Jesus spoke about = in Matthew 7:21-22

THE REAL KEY = Is to be Able = by the Spirit of GOD [Romans 8:14] to be able to DISCERN = those? May I illustrate?

FIRST: Are we = to cast our pearls before Swine? See Matthew 7:6 ?

SECOND:

(Hebrews 5:12-13-14) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
(Heb 5:13) For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
(Heb 5:14) But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised = = to discern both good = = and evil.

CAN YOU DISCERN = = Between Those = Good = and THOSE EVIL!

TO PUT ALL SINNERS = = even the Reprobrate, Titus 1:16 : the Twice dead, Jude 1:12, the Creeps 2Timothy 3:1-to-9, and those that change the Grace of God = = into LASCIVIOUSNESS = Jude 1:3-4, AND those spoken of in 2 Chronicles 19:2 = = ARE WE TO PRAY FOR THESE? NOT!

PERHAPS = if you would examine these Scriptures that I have posted = here = and = ASK GOD FOR YOURSELF? ? ?

In Christ, Roger
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