Is attending a church necessary?

lone-traveler · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject:

Gen 18:1 ¶ And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
Gen 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw [them], he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
Gen 18:3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
Gen 18:4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:
Gen 18:5 And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.
Gen 18:6 And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead [it], and make cakes upon the hearth.

Gen 18:7 And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave [it] unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it.
Gen 18:8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set [it] before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

If we're not supposed to eat meat, then why did God command the passover to be kept ?

Pete · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:14 am Post subject:

james · Fierce Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 567

How we can say Gods people were never meant to eat flesh is something I definitely can not agree with for it was God who instituted the different sacrificial offerings and God who said the people are to partake of those offerings. The passover lamb is one of many examples where God had the people eat flesh.
Not only that but even health wise, I know of and knew many vegitarians, not only do those who eat a diet of meat have no disadvantage in longevity of life but vegatarians have such an unhealthy demeanor about them.

Silver Surfer · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject:

Numbers 11:31 And there went forth a wind from the LORD, and brought quails from the sea, and let [them] fall by the camp, as it were a day's journey on this side, and as it were a day's journey on the other side, round about the camp, and as it were two cubits [high] upon the face of the earth.
11:32 And the people stood up all that day, and all [that] night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread [them] all abroad for themselves round about the camp.
11:33 And while the flesh [was] yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the LORD was kindled against the people, and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague.

To understand WHY...read the context around these Bible verses.

james · Fierce Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 567

SS you have given me one example of why you believe the people should not eat flesh, and there are dozens of scriptual examples through out the Bible where God allowed the people to eat flesh when sacrificing.
Even go back to Genesis 9:3 "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you" God told Noah this.
Basically there are so many scriptures which allow flesh to be eaten and there is no scripture which disallows. The scripture in Numbers 11 no where does God forbid them from ever eating flesh again, the punishment was due to their lusting. Also it is mentioned in Exodus 16:12 in which God provided flesh for them to eat, and no forbidding is mentioned there either.

1 Tim 4:4-5 is a scripture I know you are familiar with.

Also I just noticed this subject is originally about going to church.
How did we get so far off the subject ?

Silver Surfer · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject:

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6650 Location: USA

SS, you lost it man.

James points out that there are a plethora of scriptures pertaining to the eating of flesh, as ordained by God, and that there are ZERO scriptures telling men not to eat flesh.

You come back with a rant about kosher? Rolling Eyes

james · Fierce Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 567

Actually I had to look up Kosher in the dictionary since the word is not found in SCRIPTURE.
It means clean meat according to JEWISH LAW. So am I now to put myself under another series of laws, I am not familiar with Judaism since this is a religion which lives by Jewish Laws, due to their rejection of Christ as the Messiah.

Silver Surfer · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject:

james · Fierce Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 567

We were discussing eating meats, blood had nothing to do with our discussion.
Romans 10:12; Gal 3:19-29; Col 3:11 - there is neither Jew nor Greek, for in Christ we are one.
Gal 2:11-14 Why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Christs blood took away the sins of the WHOLE world this is the NT or NC not just the sins of the Jews.

Silver Surfer · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject:

james · Fierce Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 567

My point in saying Christ blood took away the sins of the WHOLE world, is what shows the new covenent is not just for the Jews, but Jews and Gentiles alike.

I had to go back and read your past few messages, and seriously SS you are so far off, that you totally have gotten off the discussion and are not making any sense. You are just throwing out everything and anything.

james · Fierce Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 567

My point in saying Christ blood took away the sins of the WHOLE world, is what shows the new covenent is not just for the Jews, but Jews and Gentiles alike.

I had to go back and read your past few messages, and seriously SS you are so far off, that you totally have gotten off the discussion and are not making any sense. You are just throwing out everything and anything.