General doctrine - leaving the Catholic Church

FFT · Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject:

Oh, wow. I was being sarcastic. It's widely asserted that Paul had an epileptic seizure on the road to Damascus (if the event happened at all). His purported experience has much in common with a severe epileptic seizure.

That is to say, he didn't see Jesus, he was simply having a fit and hallucinated the event.

That you have actually had epilepsy (I wasn't aware that it was a curable condition, only treatable) casts quite a bit of doubt on your "road to Damascus" experience.

Were you messing with lighting when you had this Damascus road experience?

Flashman · Pit Bull Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: MO

Sorry FFT,

I was being...well, I lied. No, I have never had epilepsy. I recognized your sarcasm and thought I'd barb ya. Sorry.

A "Damascas Road" experience is where a person experiences a sudden and dramatic enlightenment of Jesus - so profound that it changes your entire life. Yes, Paul could have had a seizure, but I prefer to use my own experience to lend weight to what God says happened. I won't argue the woulda/coulda. I know in my spirit what happened.

By the way, God is either God, or He's not. If He's God then He can cure anything He wants to. If He's not, then why are we even discussing it? Confused or disgusted

Loving you all,
Flash
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FFT · Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject:

Flashman · Pit Bull Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: MO

Silver Surfer

FFT · Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:08 am Post subject:

You know, SS, this is probably going to get you guilt by association, but I agree with you. The original Sabbath was on Saturday, and Gentile Christians were observing Saturday as the Sabbath and Sunday as a day of worship up until 365. The Council of Laodicea around 365 forbid resting on the Sabbath. It did this, most likely, as a way of distancing itself from Judaism, as the Jewish-Roman wars had just ended and the Romans weren't big fans of Jews any more. Of the 59 decrees of the Council of Laodicea, #16 states the Bible is to be read on the Sabbath, #29 states Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath but must work that day and then if possible rest on the Lord's Day and any found to be judaizers are anathema from Christ; #'s 49 and 51 state that the Sabbath and Lord's Day are to be excepted from Lenten restrictions.

I argue, however, that there's a lot of resistance to changing the day of worship back to Saturday: everyone's still hung over from Friday Wink

Nobby · Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject:

Silver Surfer · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:44 am Post subject:

FFT · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:57 am Post subject:

lone-traveler · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:56 am Post subject:

we live in an age that is not much different, actually quite similar to the days when the hebrews lived in Egypt under the rule of Pharoah. They were worked daily for many years and they had forgotten which day was what. All days were esteemed the same there was no days of rest given. Pharoah had enslaved them so completely that they lost track of even themselves.
When the days of fulfillment of Pharoahs reign had come and his day of judgement was at hand, God sent Moses as a witness and a light to all men, Pharoahs kingdom and the hebrews of just who God was and that he was in full control of everything.
Now Moses was not this manna that was given in the wilderness but he was sent to lead them into God's kingdom across Jordan. Along the way, after being freed from the dominion of Pharoah and his days of enslavement, God began to build his nation according to his own ways.
God sent manna every day for six days and on the seventh he sent none. This was to show the hebrews what day was the Lord's day of rest. He also witheld the manna from the sabbath day to prove them, whether they would listen and believe him or not.

again we are under the rule of another Pharoah, our own governments, laws and rules. we work ourselves and eachother without mercy giving none rest. The Jews have to the best of their ability have kept this day as the sabbath day, yet according to Jesus they did not keep it properly.
So as the manna that was given on the sixth day was double the portion of the first five days, so Jesus as the manna and bread sent from heaven is too a double portion that was given to men.
That sabbath day was the day in which Jesus was on the earth teaching men once again the way to Jordan.
And as God had given the law to moses and put his words in his mouth to speak to the hebrew children, which at that time were neither jew nor greek, as Israel had not been established yet, God sent Jesus to speak his words to all mankind and to once again give his laws not only of tithes and works of the temple which was one portion but to proclaim the second portion again which is mercy, judgement, and truth which they had let slide.

Which kingdom are we enslaved to today?
are we in the kingdom of the ten toes made out of iron and clay?
the works of our own hands, the paths of our own feet, look at the world around you....are they as Sodom an Gomorrah, are the children crying out to God because of the wickedness that is in the earth?

judgement is on the horizon. and after those days, once again we will be taken out from the government of this world, and be led through a wilderness where once again we will be taught the truth of God's ways.

if you don't like them now, how will you accept them later?
do we really know what day it is? have we lost track by enslavement of the kingdoms of this world?

judge for yourselves who holds truth...God or man?

peace
lone
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Silver Surfer · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:25 am Post subject:

FFT · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:00 am Post subject:

Silver Surfer · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject:

Silver Surfer

To leave the Catholic church completely.....one must stop observing Sunday worship services, which is but showing loyalty to the Catholic churches authority to change the Bible's teachings.
"...Think to change times and laws', Daniel 7:25
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