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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Hi Jason, I hope that you are alright, as I heard that you have had nasty storms in Iowa. I am shocked to hear you say that God is only in the Catholic Church. Believers are the Church, with Jesus Christ as the head. Your pope is not and ever will be a Vicar of Christ. And the only Holy Father, I know of is Father God.

I gave you an interpretation of a sin unto death, and you are the one in unbelief. Did you study Hebrews 6:4-6 like I hoped you would. Don't you know that sin has no dominion over us (this is what God says in His Word). Does the Word say that we have been forgiven of ALL sin? Of course. That has to mean Past, Present, and future sins. The Bible says that we have been cleansed of ALL unrighteousness. All means All, and nothing else. Where does it say, that we have to maintain our salvation? I told you before that we should workout our own salvation wih fear and trembling. In other words, the rest is up to us. You see, it is a soulishly and fleshly problem. Catholic thelogians have been wrong before and they are wrong now. The trest is, Does it line up with the Word of God?

Trinity, the word is not mentioned, but the Bible says that we are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. No human can really understand three persons in One God. We will know in heaven. The books in the Bible are all Holy Spirit inspired. 1 Timothy tells us this. Can't remember the exact verse. Of course infants go to heaven. I really don't know what the age of accountability is, but I do know that God is just, and all about love.

My wife and I were talking about Condemnation today, which brings us to ask 2 questions. We ourselves condemn our selves or Satan does. If you will study 1 John 3. The devil always will try to condemn us and give us reason to not believe, But we serve a Mighty God, who has forgiven us of all our sins. In fact, The Bible says that He don't even remember them. He loves us, and doesn't throw darts at us. Only the Devil does that, but the Bible says to put on the armor of God. (Ephesians). One of the reasons that I left the Catholic Church is because it always preached condemnation. THINK GOD, AND DON'T THINK SIN. You would be surprised to see, your sin life start to dwindle. The Catholic Church would tell you to Join Opus Dei, and whip yourself to handle the acts of the flesh. Complete nonsense. Jesus Christ has done it all.

I don't mean to be too hard on your Church. I hope that you don't take it personally. Pope John would never say that the Catholic Church is the one and only true Church. I wish you well my friend.


May God bless, Jack
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Greetings folks! HE IS RISEN!!! Halelujah! Smile

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Hi Jason, I hope that you are alright, as I heard that you have had nasty storms in Iowa.

Hey Jack! Smile Very Happy Yes, we got hit pretty bad. A funnel cloud (tornado) went right by me during the storm – after it was a half mile or so away, I watched it – it was incredible. My wife and I are all right – no significant damage to our property either, thank God for that. And thank you for your consideration my brother! Very Happy

I’ll reply to some of your points here, since I have a few moments to spare. Wink

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I am shocked to hear you say that God is only in the Catholic Church.

I never said that. Smile And not only did I not say it – it is not true… and I have never believed otherwise! Laughing

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Your pope is not and ever will be a Vicar of Christ.

Yes he is. And he is your Pope too! Wink

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And the only Holy Father, I know of is Father God.

Oh yeah? You’ve never heard of the Pope before? Laughing (Just kidding Wink)

But, I think I get it Jack… what you’re saying is that you have a problem with the term “Holy Father” being applied to a person? If that is your point – then I can relate and I do not fault you one bit! So, “lend me you ear” and I’ll try to make it less 'obscene' for you my friend. Wink

The term “Father” is used for the Pope… because that is part of what his role is like for the Church – it is a paternal relationship - he is our spiritual father. If you have a problem using that word (‘father”) specifically – I’ll address that at greater length – you just let me know. Wink But, for the time being… I will say that the use of “father” for non-biological “fathers” and for spiritual leaders is a very Biblical concept. So, if you object to that word in particular – I can and will easily show you that you should not feel so uncomfortable with its use – using the “Bible Alone” if you’d like. Wink

The term “Holy” used in connection with the Pope does not mean the same thing as it does when used in connection with God. When used in connection with God – it means more like “divine” (like in Psalm 99:9) and carries much greater significance – the GREATEST significance! Very Happy But, its use is not limited to God – and this is obvious from Scriptures because of the many uses of the word “holy” in connection with mere created beings and mortals (like prophets and saints,) angels, simple pieces of earth, entire cities, or even inanimate objects! Laughing

When used in connection with the Pope – it closely fits Webster’s definition of:
“devoted entirely to the deity or the work of the deity”
To be even more practical though Jack, let’s say (hypothetically) that your biological father was a very holy and pious man… could he not reasonably be called your Holy father? Wink

You see, your argument is valid if and only if you believe that Catholics are assigning to the Pope a title that implies that Catholics believe him to be divine or equal to God. And I can plainly tell you that this is not even close to being the case! Very Happy

If you are reading this… now… your only real possible reactions (if you chose to continue thinking similarly to the way you are now) is to say to yourself either:

“Jason is a liar – and Catholics DO believe that the Pope is “divine.” (Which I suppose is a reasonable choice.)

Or to say, “It might not be “wrong” necessarily – as even sinful men from the Bible who were (or became) spiritual leaders were called ‘holy’ … and were also called ‘fathers’ - but I am still not comfortable with the use of that term.” (Which I do think is reasonable.)

You don’t have to be comfortable with the term Jack. But, please take comfort in knowing that the name does not take anything away from God (nothing can,) and it was never meant to. Very Happy

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I gave you an interpretation of a sin unto death, and you are the one in unbelief.

I might be in unbelief of YOU, but not the Bible! Laughing You asked to be shown where “mortal sin” was in the Bible – and I showed it to you. You can offer an interpretation that makes the words “mortal sin” or “sin that leads to death” invalid or meaningless if you want to – I don’t WANT you to of course… but I have no control over what you chose to see and believe. I just pray that you “harden not your heart” against the truth. And the truth in 1st John is that the Holy Wink Apostle John was talking to believers – people who were already in Christ – and telling them that there is “mortal sin” - which requires more that simple prayers for reconciliation, and that there is sin that is “not mortal” which prayer can help resolve. You may not be comfortable with it… and you may very well like for it to not mean what it very plainly and objectively appears to be saying (and I don’t blame you!) But, it is what it is Jack! Very Happy

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Catholic thelogians have been wrong before and they are wrong now.

Which ones? Wink Laughing You see Jack... I don’t put my faith in any theologian Jack – I put my faith in Him, His Word, and His Church. This is what the Church teaches and what all Catholics should do. When you understand the difference maybe… you’ll be ready to come home. Smile Very Happy

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Trinity, the word is not mentioned, but the Bible says that we are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

I didn’t ask you for your explanation of the Trinity Jack – I already believe in the Trinity – I am a Catholic Christian! Very Happy What I asked you was WHERE is the word “Trinity” in the Bible. And you admit that it is not there.

So, now I ask you... If it is not there… WHY do you believe it? Where does this doctrine come from? Wink (Now would be a good time to have a good historical reference book my friend! Laughing ) No attempt is made to really explain the Trinity in Scripture - but the Dogma exists and you believe in it. Is it possible that the understanding you currently have of the nature of God - in the Trinity - was defined and taught by the Church long ago... and THAT is where you learned it from? Wink

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The books in the Bible are all Holy Spirit inspired. 1 Timothy tells us this. Can't remember the exact verse.

You’re referring to second Timothy… 3:16 maybe? Wink

I am not asking whether or not the Bible is the Inspired Word of God – I know it is! I believe that the books in the New Testament are Inspired – but why do YOU believe so? You simply cannot believe that the New Testament is inspired because of St. Paul alone. Read those passages again Jack – St. Paul was absolutely not talking about the New Testament. He is explicitly referring to the Scriptures that his readers have known and grown up learning and hearing! The cannon of the New Testament would not be decided on for several hundred years – and MOST of the books hadn’t been written yet! I say again… he was absolutely not referring to the New Testament Jack. Nor does he EVER give any indication that there will ever be such thing as a “New Testament.”

So I ask you again… prove to me from the Bible my friend… what books belong in the New Testament?

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Of course infants go to heaven. I really don't know what the age of accountability is, but I do know that God is just, and all about love.

Oh yeah? If you’re so sure – just tell me where to read it for myself!
All I hear is: “Of course infants go to heaven Jason! So maybe the Bible never actually says that they do… I don’t care… I believe it anyway!” Laughing
I’m not saying that infants and/or children go to hell Jack – I was just asking for you to tell me where the doctrine of “age of accountability” or “reason” is in the Bible. The Bible never says “If children and infants die, they go to heaven… unless they’ve reached the age of accountability,” now does it? Wink So, where does this doctrine come from? I agree that it is a nice idea… but that doesn’t make it true. In order for something to be Truth – it has to come from Him.

If I was (personally) going to “invent” a doctrine, this might be a good one! It sounds reasonable… and I would certainly like for it to be true! But, unfortunately…He never said it is true. It is a false doctrine… because He has not revealed it to us. It does not exist in Sacred Scripture and it does not exist in Sacred Tradition. And no matter how unimportant or even how nice it of a doctrine it seems – it is not from Him. And the Church rejects ALL manmade doctrines – including this one.

The point is not that the belief that there is an "age of accountability" is a man-made doctrine - that is certainly true - but that is not my point. My point is... why does anybody believe it?

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One of the reasons that I left the Catholic Church is because it always preached condemnation.

I’m sorry you felt that way. Maybe if you take another look, now that you are older, wiser, and more mature in your faith – you won’t feel that way. The Church has never – NEVER – condemned or claimed to know that ANY soul was destined for hell. Not even Judas! Shocked Only God knows if our destination is hell.

The Church spreads the Gospel - the "good news" – not condemnation. These were just your subjective feelings. And I imagine if you were an American Protestant in the 18th century – you would probably feel pretty strongly that YOUR church preached condemnation too - after all the yelling, hellfire and damnation type sermons you heard from your pastor! Laughing But, that is not what the Gospel is about is it!? It shouldn't matter what impression any person or ‘church’ gave you. You will always run the risk of being dissapointed when you put your faith and understanding in 'people' - wouldn't you agree? Wink

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The Catholic Church would tell you to Join Opus Dei, and whip yourself to handle the acts of the flesh. Complete nonsense.

You are right! What you just said is complete nonsense! Laughing You must be reading too much Dan Brown fiction my friend! Are you a fan of “The Da Vinci Code” Jack!? Laughing (I'm just joking with you a little Jack! Wink)

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I don't mean to be too hard on your Church. I hope that you don't take it personally. Pope John would never say that the Catholic Church is the one and only true Church. I wish you well my friend.

It’s your Church too my brother! And Pope John (Paul the Second) DID say that the Catholic Church is the one Church! He said it probably every single day from the moment he was ordained as a Priest (and long before!) Because, as you know... “we believe in one, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.” Wink There is only ONE Church because Jesus built only ONE Church. It is His Church that has faithfully transmitted His Gospel throughout the ages – and always will. Very Happy

Take comfort in knowing that no doctrine has ever changed within the Church Jack – and none WILL ever change. Very Happy The only things that can change have to do with how we practice our faith – not what we believe. Wink Truth is eternal because He is! Very Happy Very Happy

Come home Jack! You have a home in the Church! You need not leave your vocation at the steps – there is much work to be done for Him! "Be not afraid" to "hear His call." You are still young... and it is NEVER too late. You have the rest of your life - but why wait!? Very Happy

He is calling you home my brother. Very Happy

I will continue to pray for you Jack.

May the Lord be with you!

Jason
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Hi Jason, happy to hear that your family made it through the storm. You still did not tell me if you studied Hebrews 6:4-6. This should give you an understanding of the unpardonable sin. I wrote a long post yesterday, but lost it.

Here are some scriptures for you to think about on the subject of salvation:
1. John 3:16
2. John 10:10
3. Romans 3:23
4. Romans 6:23
5. Romans 5:8
6. 1 Cor. 15:3-6
7. John 14:6
8. John 1:12
9. Eph. 2:8, 9
10. John 3:1-8
11. Rev. 3:20

You see Jason, Receiving Christ involves turning to God from self and trusting Christ to come into our lives to forgive our sins and to make us what He wants us to be. Just to agree intellectually that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He died on the cross for our sins is not enough. Nor is it enough to have an emotional experience. We receive Jesus Christ by faith, as an act of the will.

May God bless, Jack
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmj

Hello Jack, my friend. Thank you for your words! My family is fine… as you may remember, we have our first child due to arrive shortly, within the next few weeks. It is a very wonderful time for us. It's quite a thing... watching your family grow. It’s quite a thing...

I’m sure you know. Smile

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You see Jason, Receiving Christ involves turning to God from self and trusting Christ to come into our lives to forgive our sins and to make us what He wants us to be. Just to agree intellectually that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He died on the cross for our sins is not enough. Nor is it enough to have an emotional experience. We receive Jesus Christ by faith, as an act of the will.

Thank you for saying this Jack. I also believe this. And I promise I will continue to try to take it to heart. I hope that you do as well. Smile

And I am sorry that I didn’t comment on the verses you wanted me to read – I did re-read them though. Smile

I also went back and read through our “conversation” from the beginning Jack. It was a good read – and I’d like to think I learned a thing or two. Wink And I sincerely thank you my friend.

You should come home Jack – I know you’ve heard me say it before, but it is true... and saying it once more can't hurt! Very Happy

And I do love you my brother… you remain in my thoughts and in my prayers.

Your (younger) brother… in Christ,

Jason
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Hi Jason, congradulations on the upcoming birth of your child. Children are precious to God.

I believe we should thank God often that Christ is in our lives and that He will never leave you (Hebrews 13:5). If we do committ an act of sin, the Word says that God never leaves us, and this includes what you call Mortal sin. It's all about trust Jason, and not about doing something to have this sin removed because we have already been forgiven by the Blood of the Lamb. You see, we must have faith in what God has said in His Word. Religious things are not going to save us. The gift of heaven is free, and God is not a liar. So, you must trust in the completed work on the cross. You can't say that I think I am saved because then you are not trusting. You cannot wait till you get there to know. You must know now.

I want to thank you for your service to this country. We are living in dangerous times. The Middle East is the battleground, and will be the final battle. Iran will not give up their pursuit of Nuclear weapons, and diplomacy will not work because the United Nations is useless. I call it the United Nothing. According to Bible prophesy, Russia and the Arab Natioins will come against Israel for the first Armegadden. This is all forming up right now. Read Ezekiel chapters 38 through 40. When you see this start to come into manifestation, get ready because Jesus will take us up and remove His Church from the earth.

Please pray for the peace of Jerusalem and that the Lost will be saved before the rapture. Hope you are doing well.

May God bless, Jack
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:49 am    Post subject: Catholic v. Non-catholic Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I'm the newbie (no applause, please) reading this thread from the beginning. Hey Jason, I used to live in CF, UNI grad, still visit my sister from time-to-time in WLoo. I still consider it my "home".

Some of my observations from the myriad posts along this thread include:

Jason's awesome peace in his convictions
Others trying to get their side across
Jason's pretty tight arguments and apologetics

It's been my experience that there are a lot of non-denominational Christians - true believers. There are a lot of Catholic Christians out there - true believers.

My problem with Catholicism is that it can become so ritualistic that the Reason for praise/worship becomes hidden by performance and duty. My son-in-law becomes paralyzed in his seat, rigid and fearful, refusing to move a muscle, when the rest of the congregation of a non-denominational church body rises to pray in unison. His fear of "breaking" a Catholic "law" is crippling to him. Sad, to me. I’ve seen so much of that I have come to believe that it is a giant barrier to salvation.

My problem with other, non-denominational, churches is that many of them have no self-discipline. Many so-called Christians (myself included) sinning and judging. Even during worship, some "members" will allow themselves to get loud to distraction in praise and worship during sermons. Not just the "Glory!", or "Hallelujahs", but making complete fools of themselves by shouting utterances which are obviously not inspired by the Holy Ghost. These things also can lead to prospective Christians turning their backs instead of embracing the truth and listening to God’s Word.

There's more, but I think you get my drift and I believe everyone contributing to these posts understands what I mean.

Having said all the above, it is possible (I'm thinking I read about this very fact) that there are inspired books/writings, which just didn't make it into the "Book" because of redundancy or were included in other versions because of reasons of clarification.

Either way, if you are a true Believer, then you hear directly from God. You may hear directly from God and not even be a true Believer. But I know I've heard directly from God and can say with authority that God does things for His reasons and not ours. Children may or may not be given an auto-pass into Heaven. The age of accountability is a fleeting thing that is unique for every individual under Heaven. My brother, who did not accept Christ before his death at 37 years of age, is sitting with God right now (I'll tell anyone this story who is willing to listen - as crazy as it may sound).

Anyone who believes in Christ as his/her Lord and Savior is a Christian whether they like/believe it or not. Whether Catholic, Buddhist, or satanist, if you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord, you are a Christian. Whether it takes Catechism or Sunday morning church services to get it, it’s all the same ending.

I’m of the opinion and belief that the words written by the authors of each book of the Bible are the infallible Word of God. I can get a “good idea” from what I read and confirmation of what the Holy Spirit has already filled me with by reading and listening to sermons. But I have to confess, there are some (very minor) variations in translations of those original texts, which gives me no other alternative but to believe what I KNOW to be true by the confirmation of the Holy Spirit and simply wonder about the rest until I do get Confirmation.

Whether I hear it from the Pope or from Billy Graham or my little sister, it makes no difference to me. When we accept Jesus, we also accept His Holy Spirit. Each preaching of the Bible, from any one of millions of priests or preachers, will differ in some way. That’s why the Bible, while inspired by God in it’s entirety and in each epistle and each paragraph, jot and tittle; cannot be given weight as infallible if any word is studied without being in the light of the Holy Spirit.

If I could read the original author’s works, and understood the language, I would feel safe in saying, “Yes, this is the infallible Word of God.” With the help of the Holy Spirit, I can also read, say, the NIV and understand what the author meant. But in some passages, the Holy Spirit intervenes and gives me guidance as to how much weight to give it.

I hope I’ve made sense.

God Bless You All,
Flash

PS: How do you make those little Emoticons work, I've checked the box, but it still inserts as a text/symbol.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Hi Flashman, I hope you are not one of those who seems to think that everybody will go to heaven. It is plain and simple: We are saved by grace through faith.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, I'm one of those guys who believes that God set the rules and we only have to follow them. His grace is sufficient for me.

But, if I was, would you straighten me out? Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Catholic v. Non-catholic Reply with quote

Flashman wrote:

Either way, if you are a true Believer, then you hear directly from God. You may hear directly from God and not even be a true Believer. But I know I've heard directly from God and can say with authority that God does things for His reasons and not ours. Children may or may not be given an auto-pass into Heaven. The age of accountability is a fleeting thing that is unique for every individual under Heaven. My brother, who did not accept Christ before his death at 37 years of age, is sitting with God right now (I'll tell anyone this story who is willing to listen - as crazy as it may sound).

...

PS: How do you make those little Emoticons work, I've checked the box, but it still inserts as a text/symbol.


Howdy Flash...

First, I'd love to hear your story. It's been my experience here that some may poke fun at you, but most will be respectful (aethist, skeptic and Christian alike),

Second, when click the emote thing it shows up on your screen as text, but will translate when posted as the icon...you can click the "preview" button at the bottom to make sure it does what you want.....or you can just type the text yourself ( i.e. colon right paranthesis ) creates Smile and colon roll colon creates Rolling Eyes .
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Flashman, What are you really saying? Are you saying that because of grace that everybody is saved? Noone, no not one can be saved without faith that believes that Jesus died on a cross,shed His blood for us, and are redeemed. The Bible says that there is no remission of sins without the blood of Jesus. Yes, we have grace, which is free for everyone, God's unmerrited favor. It comes down to a choice available to everyone, but requires faith.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, Kitten.

My little brother was a very heavy drinker since he was old enough to be tempted by it. Around 11 years old I think. He was also a pot smoker, and did other drugs "recreationally" - meaning he wouldn't buy it.

He was a guitar player in a band for about 20 years when he died. I worked for him as a lighting designer for a few years, but then my path took me to Nashville where I had my Damascas Road experience. No matter how I witnessed and even "thumped" sometimes, he wouldn't budge from his atheistic veiw/belief. Jesus just didn't fit into his plans.

At any rate, in the last few months of his life he went downhill fast, selling his guitars and equipment and living in my mother's garage. There was a room for him, but he didn't want to live in Mom's house. Too much like being a "leach" as he used to say.

By then I'd moved to Branson and it was my habit to pray every night for as many people as the Spirit brought to my mind/heart. I'd pray for so and so, and then my brother, and moved on to the next so and so...but the Holy Spirit kept urging me to pray for him again. When I thought I was done, He would urge me again to continue praying for his salvation. I think this happened about 5 or 6 times. Finally, about midnight, I fell asleep.

About 2AM, my sister called and told me that he'd died. Not just quit breathing, but was struggling in his bedsheets and fell out of bed. It was later determined by autopsy that he'd had a massive heart attack. I flew up to Iowa and I was telling my sister my story about the Holy Spirit and praying for him. As I was telling her this, I couldn't stop the tears because I knew what happened: God knew my brother was on the way to meet Jesus. I know when he did meet Him, he was given a choice and he accepted Christ as his savior. I don't think it and I don't just believe it. I know it from the Holy Spirit's confirmation of that fact. There is no other reason that the Holy Spirit would have me pray for his salvation. Very Happy

So that's why I know that God sets the rules and doesn't always put everything down on paper. I've not found any scripture that would indicate Jesus couldn't forgive his sins right up to the moment they met.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote

Golfjack,


golfjack wrote:
Flashman, What are you really saying? Are you saying that because of grace that everybody is saved?


I'm saying that because of God's grace everybody CAN be saved. To help in specificity, Jesus shed his blood that we might receive salvation. It's all Jesus, no doubt. He paid our price. Does that answer your questions or settle my "doctrinal" view?

Salvation is soooooooo simple (yet so complicated). I know you know that Golfjack, but many people out there believe that they have to "perform" some way, or think a certain way. Jesus died on the cross, rose again and is still alive - and He did it for all of us. That's the simple part.

Blessings,
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flashman wrote:
I worked for him as a lighting designer for a few years, but then my path took me to Nashville where I had my Damascas Road experience.
Really? You're also an epileptic? You should probably get that checked out.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Good for you flash. You prayed the prayer of supplication for your brother, and the Lord did honor that prayer. Now, I see what you are saying. I am surprised that God did not send your brothers spirit back to his body, but God knew best. I admire your obedience to God through prayer. Our Heavenly Father wants our prayers so He can answer them. You have made my day.


May God bless, golfjack
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