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t-shirtsnjeans Big Goldfish
Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 69
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| SDMD wrote: | | t-shirtsnjeans wrote: | | SDMD wrote: | | t-shirtsnjeans wrote: | | Evolution does not exist. There, you've read it again fffffffffffffffffttt. | Yeah, another "because I say so" postulation.
Let me lead your attention to a "sticky" tread in Noah's Lounge regarding "rules":
Note to Christians and Fundamentalists: Our debate forums are for all views, so please back up your statements in the specific debate forums. |
Does this last statement have anything to do with the price of tea in China?
How much more backup do I need than evolution does not exist? I stated it, the backup is there, I said it, and I agree with it! | There was no backup. There were misrepresentations and then "disagreement" wirth the misrepresentations, followed by a bunch of "just because I say so" postulations. I am still waiting for you to back up anything |
Ok, throwing out evidence to non-believers is like telling them that blue is really orange, and no matter what happens you will always believe that an orange is blue.
If you do not believe in God then the point of showing you all the evidence in the world (hehe, the 'world', since He created it there is evidence on this entire planet of His creation) and you would shoot it down. It's much harder for a logically thinking see-it-with-my-own-eyes-to-believe-it type person anything that is abstract which means going outside of the limited box of science and 'prove it' arguments, and you can't get outside to see the abstract of anything that requires faith without sight, sound, touch, etc, to believe in. You can call it 'mythology', that's fine with me as well with all other Christians, we are blessed when we are insulted, so I thank you and others thank you too for the blessings.
Finding 'proof' to show someone who has no facility to understand proof of faith is impossible. It is possible to a believer, but not to a non-believer. I could tell you I love you, but you wouldn't believe it because you don't know me. Your proof of my existence is through these words (kinda like the Bible), and as I type in reply you see more and more evidence that I exist, but you still haven't seen, heard, touched, smelled, or known me in any shape, form, or fashion. I do exist. You just have to have faith that I do even if I don't type another word. You want proof though? All I can provide is typed word.
All the good today ok  _________________ In the beginning God created,,.......any questions? |
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unschoolmom Kitten

Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 141 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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So in summary, "I'm not going to tell you and even if I did you wouldn't understand anyway?"
It's like a motto for a self-important mystery cult. |
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SDMD Show Poodle
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 253
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| t-shirtsnjeans wrote: | | SDMD wrote: | | t-shirtsnjeans wrote: | | SDMD wrote: | | t-shirtsnjeans wrote: | | Evolution does not exist. There, you've read it again fffffffffffffffffttt. | Yeah, another "because I say so" postulation.
Let me lead your attention to a "sticky" tread in Noah's Lounge regarding "rules":
Note to Christians and Fundamentalists: Our debate forums are for all views, so please back up your statements in the specific debate forums. | Does this last statement have anything to do with the price of tea in China?
How much more backup do I need than evolution does not exist? I stated it, the backup is there, I said it, and I agree with it! | There was no backup. There were misrepresentations and then "disagreement" with the misrepresentations, followed by a bunch of "just because I say so" postulations. I am still waiting for you to back up anything | Ok, throwing out evidence to non-believers is like telling them that blue is really orange, and no matter what happens you will always believe that an orange is blue. | Well, thank you for finally admitting that you deliberately are violating the forum rules as listed in blue up above. We often see that as a trait in the fundamentalist posters here who do nothing but spewing "just because I say so" unsubstantiated postulations. But thanks for your confirmation of such disgraceful behavior.
| Quote: | | If you do not believe in God | But I do. That is not a justification for you to violate forum rules and bear false witness even if I didn't, though.
So you can drop your bearing false witness, it is highly offensive.
| Quote: | | then the point of showing you all the evidence in the world (hehe, the 'world', since He created it there is evidence on this entire planet of His creation) | Ah, another "just because I ay so" unsubstantiated postulation that you have no intention of providing evidence for IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF FORUM RULES. What despicable behavior. How un-Christian of you.
| Quote: | | and you would shoot it down. | I don't shoot down evidence. I shoot down falsehoods. But that sure seems to be nothing but a coward's retreat, making false claims as you run from providing evidence of your false claims. JUST what we have come to expect from fundamentalist creationists with their entire argument being based on lies against Evolution. Does that mean you are one of them?
| Quote: | | It's much harder for a logically thinking see-it-with-my-own-eyes-to-believe-it type person anything that is abstract which means going outside of the limited box of science and 'prove it' arguments, and you can't get outside to see the abstract of anything that requires faith without sight, sound, touch, etc, to believe in. | Not at all. You just can't lie about it and call it science, that's all. As long as you don't call it science or claim scientific evidence for it then everything is fine. It is when you try to claim scientific validity that you end up lying and is getting called on it.
| Quote: | | You can call it 'mythology', that's fine with me as well with all other Christians, | Sure it is. I am one, so I know.
| Quote: | | we are blessed when we are insulted, | But it isn't insulting, you are just blowing hyperbole off here.
| Quote: | | so I thank you and others thank you too for the blessings. | What lame nonsense.
| Quote: | | Finding 'proof' to show someone who has no facility to understand proof of faith is impossible. | Rather, there is no "proof" involved in Faith. Those who need proof to substantiate their faith are those who are weak in their faith. They are the ones who need to build a physical presence of God to have faith. They are like the Israelites who had to build a Golden Calf because they couldn't imagine Faith without "proof." Those of us who are secure in our faith in God know that we don't need proof, we don't need evidence, and that Science and Scientific Findings are not a threat to our Faith. I pray that you someday might find your faith strong enough that it can stand without the crutch of 'evidence," without the crutch of “proof."
| Quote: | | It is possible to a believer, but not to a non-believer. | SIGH! A believer doesn't NEED proof. Hopefully, you will see that someday.
| Quote: | | I could tell you I love you, but you wouldn't believe it because you don't know me. | I know that you feel you have faith, and that you feel your faith is threatened by Science. I know that you feel you SHOULD love me per the Bible telling you so, but as for you actually living up to that I don't know. Given your posts, you seem more interested in bearing false witness, which is not a sign of love. But I will pray for you to find greater strength in your faith and get past this crisis of yours where physical evidence has become so important for your faith. You are not alone in your struggle; many Americans have this same NEED for evidence of their faith, need for political and scientific confirmation of their faith. Once God gets to be strong enough in your hearts, this need will dissipate and you will be free of your fears that God might not really exist if science is right.
| Quote: | | Your proof of my existence is through these words (kinda like the Bible), and as I type in reply you see more and more evidence that I exist, but you still haven't seen, heard, touched, smelled, or known me in any shape, form, or fashion. I do exist. You just have to have faith that I do even if I don't type another word. You want proof though? All I can provide is typed word. | But I am not asking of evidence of your existence, nor of God. I am asking that when you make claims of a Scientific manner, you don't bear false witness and provide scientific evidence for your claims, that's all. _________________ Geology: fossils of different ages
Paleontology: fossil sequence & species change over time.
Taxonomy: biological relationships
Evolution: explanation that ties it all together.
Creationism: squeezing eyes shut, wailing "DOES NOT!" |
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