Was Jesus Gay?

Heysoos · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 3:22 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

Jesus was born a man and therefore presumably had male sexual feelings. But there are no references in the gospels to his sexuality. Large chunks of Jesus's life are missing from the Biblical accounts. This has fuelled speculation that the early Church sanitized the gospels, removing references to Christ's sexuality that were not in accord with the heterosexual morality that it wanted to promote.

It was noted that one version of St. Mark's gospel alludes to Jesus having a homosexual relationship with a youth he raised from the dead.

We don't know for sure whether Jesus was straight, gay, bisexual or celibate. There is certainly no evidence for the Church's presumption that he was heterosexual. Nothing in the Bible points to him having desires or relationships with women. The possibility of a gay Christ cannot be ruled out.

Zathrus · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 10:44 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

People try to read all kinds of wierd things into the life of Jesus. Everything from Jesus was black to Jesus was a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Aryan because the scripture says "He came to His own and His own received Him not". Oh, and of course, Paul and the other apostles were all gay. Right.

Jesus came to earth for one reason only: to die for the sins of mankind. He was aware of this from the time He was young. He plainly stated this to His disciples during His ministry. His singleness of purpose was greater than any human in history (a fact that seems completely overlooked by those who would try to ascribe all sorts of strange traits to Him). I doubt He would have considered it a good idea to be romantically involved with someone, male or female.

The gospels were written to present the redemptive work of Christ, not to be biographies of His entire life. There are lots of things that were left out. John wrote if they wrote them all down, there wouldn't be room to put all the books. That's not reason to speculate all sorts of strange things, based on little more than a vague reference in an account of a miracle Jesus did, if anything at all.

victoria · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 3:52 pm Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

Whoa, this one is way out there. I only know that it says that in Him there was no sin. In Genesis 19, God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality and all other kinds of perverse behavior. God calls homosexuality an abomination, which in my books, is as strong a condemnation as possible. In I Cor., he gives this scary list of sins, and being gay made the list.

To be gay, would have meant that God found His own Son to be an abomination. So,No Jesus was not gay, He was the only sinless man or person to ever live.

Matter a fact in reference to not getting the His whole life story, John said that there were not enough books to compile all that He was and did. Some things we will never know on this earth, but I am most sure that this was not the case.
My blessings,
V

WittenbergDoors · Not So Newbie Joined: 18 Oct 2002 Posts: 6

I don't think any serious scholar takes the "secret gospel of Mark" seriously, of which we only have a piece anyway.

In point of fact there were many gospels floating around..jesus was a hot item of debate. A lot more than skeptics like to admit.

In fact one of the reasons, why the church decided to finally settle on a canon of the New Testament was to exclude these crazy ideas about Jesus.

admin · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:00 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

Think I'll pass on this one.

Heavenly Home · Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:11 pm Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

i must say.. this is the dumbest question i have ever heard.

Ron · Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:44 pm Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Home:
i must say.. this is the dumbest question i have ever heard.

I second this opinion!

Heysoos · Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:31 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Home:
i must say.. this is the dumbest question i have ever heard.

That's a lucid, well thought out, intelligent answer. Thanks for contrubuting. You have restored my faith in human nature.

Heysoos · Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:34 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

quote:
Originally posted by Ron:
I second this opinion!

Thanks, Ron. I can see you put a lot of time and effort into your reply. You are one of the fortunate few on this spinning ball who don't need a reason to back up your opinion.

Tiger75 · Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:12 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

Heavenly, Ron don't forget 'Grace', 'Love' and I'm sure the good book says something about a 'soft answer'.

Heysoos I think has a question that he wouldn't be the first one to ask.

admin · Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 10:06 pm Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

He couldn't have been gay. In the time of Jesus they didn't have Broadway Musicals, Barbra Streisand or tight white t-shirts.

Heysoos · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 12:27 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger75:
Heavenly, Ron don't forget 'Grace', 'Love' and I'm sure the good book says something about a 'soft answer'.

Heysoos I think has a question that he wouldn't be the first one to ask.

And you are:

A moderator?

A Guardian Angel?

Unable to answer my question?

A counsellor?

Heavenly Home · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:19 pm Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

Jesus was not gay. thats why he made Adam and Eve... he didnt make Adam and Steve. and im pretty sure it says in the bible about transexuals..... it is meant to be .. a guy and a girl... like.. you cant have a baby with 2 guys.. or 2 girls.. understand.

admin · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:07 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

Heavenly, you might want to re-read your wording.

Tiger75 · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 1:18 am Post subject: Was Jesus Gay?

quote:
Originally posted by Heysoos:
And you are:

A moderator?

A Guardian Angel?

Unable to answer my question?

A counsellor?

Actually a Christian saved by God's grace trying really hard to radiate the qualities of love, grace ...

Jesus was indeed the Son of God. Of whom it is said "who knew no sin" 2 Cor 5:21; "Who did no sin" 1 Peter 2:22.

What the eyewitnesess said:

Pilate: "Neither has Herod, for he sent him back to us; as you can see, he has done nothing to deserve death."

The thief on the cross next to him: "We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."

A Roman cebturion: "Surely this was a righteous man." "Surely this man was the Son of God!"

There were Seven eyewitness around the events of Jesus Christ's death, I just given you three for sake of space, who made statements as to Jesus' holiness of life.

This is what God thinks of homosexuality:

"18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done . " Romans 1:18-28

Jesus Christ was without sin therefore could not and would not have engaged in a homosexual act.

(look at Mark 14:50-54 to see what happened when a 'naked' man tried to 'approach' Jesus - maybe it was this same boy he raised?)

[This message has been edited by Tiger75 (edited 10-28-2002).]