Jesus is God. God is Jesus.

memra_da_yeya · Newbie Alert Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 0

Dear Summertime and all others,

I will take some time now to explain you the deity of christ and also what some other verses mean. Quotes are from the KJV

I will start with this passage:

Philippians 2,5-11: Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Christ obviously existed in the form of God and was equal with God. Why am I so sure? Jesus became a servant for our sake. He freely submitted himself under the will of the father. That is why Christ says:

John 17,5: And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

That is waht God did and as you can see from Phil. 2,9-11 it means making him Lord. What other aspects did Christ have after his ressurection?

Matther 28,18: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Philippians 3,20-21: For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Colossians 2,10: And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Revelation 1,8: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Jesus is obviously almighty. As he got the same glory that he had before the world came into existance, he has also been almighty before.
He also is allknowing:

John 21,17: He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Christ is omniscient:

Matthew 18,20: For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Matthew 28,20: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

These are all things that only apply to God. Jesus is Lord now and he was Lord before he came down to earth. Because of Philippians 2,6-8 he submitted himself under the father. That is why he says:

John 14,28b: my Father is greater than I.

A lot of people misunderstand the meaning of Mark 10:18:

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

What did Jesus mean? He can only have meant: "Hey do you call me good because you think I am a teacher or because you know I am God?"
It can only be that for he calls himself good:

John 10,11: I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

Jesus answers prayers and he is the one who will take actions when we ask for things in his name:

John 14,13-14: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Actually, it´s Jesus´name that we have to call on to get forgiveness of sins. Because he is Lord and...

Romans 10,13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

That´s what people did in Paul´s time. He wrote his epistle:

1. Corinthians 1,2: Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

And said unto Timothy:

2. Timothy 2,22: Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

If you will claim now, that there is only one God, then I will also claim that there is only one Lord!

1. Corinthians 8,6: But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

So just check the New Testament whenever it talks about the Lord and what it says about him. You will be surprised of the glory of this Lord Jesus!

Who will come back on Mount Olive? That is Jesus. Yet the prophet Zechariah declared that it will be God Almighty himself!

Zechariah 14,3-4: Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

You remember that every knee shall bow in the name of the Lord Jesus? Well that is a quote out of Isaiah and it will be the name JAHWE that is applied to Jesus. That in fact is the name that the father gave to the son. Remember Philippians 2,9-11? That will occur when Christ will judge the world. Yet God Almighty says:

Isaiah 45,23: I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Here it is applied to Lord Jesus:

Romans 14,10-12: But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

It is God Almighty that will return with the clouds and the children of Israel will look on him:

Zechariah 12,10: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Revelation 1,7: Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

That verse actually got changed by the Jews already before Christ´s time because they could not imagine their God being pierced. That´s why you will find in some manuscripts a different rendering.

Isaiah saw God Almighty:

Isaiah 6,5: Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.

Yet John says that he saw the glory of Jesus:

John 12,41: These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.

God Almighty talked about the new covenant:

Jeremiah 31,31: Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Yet the author of the book of Hebrews says that it was Jesus saying this:

Hebrews 8,6-8: But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

It says, that he (Jesus) saith these things and that it was the Lord, which is Jesus!

Christ created heavens and earth. Even the father says that here:

Hebrews 1,10: And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

But God Almighty says also:

Isaiah 44,24: Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

No help from a stranger, it was JHWH himself. Still it was Jesus´hands doing it. He is the word and the word:

Hebrews 11,3: Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Psalms 33,6: By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Jesus is the arm of God Almighty:

Isaiah 53,1-2: Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

And the arm did several things:

Isaiah 52,10: The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
Isaiah 51,5.9.10: My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust. Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon? Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?

In fact God´s arm helped him to get mankind saved:

Isaiah 59,16: And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
Isaiah 63,5: And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.

His arm guided Israel through the desert and the red sea:

Isaiah 63,12: That led them by the right hand of Moses with his glorious arm, dividing the water before them, to make himself an everlasting name?

God almighty´s arm will rule for him:

Isaiah 40,10: Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

I raise the question here who will say that God ever existed without his arm and the next question is, if God´s word can be anything apart from being good, which only God is. For the word of God comes straight out of his mind and then his mouth:

Isaiah 55,10-11: For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

It is the word that is doing all these things that please him. Jesus said:

John 8,29: And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

God´s word is the exact representation of his thought, the logos, the divine word:

Colossians 1,15: Who is the image of the invisible God
Hebrews 1,3: Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
2. Corinthians 4,4: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

God himself is the word (John 1,1). It cannot be "a god" for there is only one God and it cannot be a created God for God never created a God.

Isaiah 43,10: Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Jesus freely subjected himself under the will of the father. That´s why we read:

1. Corinthians 15,28: And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

It is God Almighty that said to the Lord that he will make his enemies his footstool. Yet it says that Jesus is doing this to the father:

1. Corithians 15,24: Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

He is delivering the kingdom unto God the father. Yet Jesus´reign and kingdom will be eternal! For he is Lord of Lords and King of Kings!

Daniel 7,13-14: I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

God and the lamb will rule together in one person for there is only one God. The lamb is in the middle of the throne, where also God is and the will see his (1 Person) face and will server him (1 Person)

Revelation 7,17;22,1-4: For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

Jesus is judge - God is judge:

2. Corinthians 5,10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Romans 14,10: But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Hebrews 12,23: To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
2. Timothy 4,1: I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Psalms 98,8-9: Let the floods clap their hands: let the hills be joyful together. Before the LORD; for he cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness shall he judge the world, and the people with equity.
Psalms 50,6: And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah.
Acts 10,42: And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
John 5,22: For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Revelation 20,12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

God Almighy only sees the heart and will give according to the deeds of men:

1. Kings 8,39: Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men

Jeremiah 17,10: I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

Yet it is Jesus also doing this:

Revelation 2,23: And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Christ said he is God:

Mark 10,18: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Christ said he is the "I AM"

John 8,58: Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Christ said we would die in our sins (go to hell) if we will not understand that he is "I Am":

John 8,24: I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

You may wanna check out the greek here. It does not say "that I am he" it says "that I AM" (ego eimi) People kissed the floor when he said it:

John 18,6: As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.

Again the greek only says: ego eimi, which is the name of JHWH.

Jesus said you only get eternal life if you know who he really is:

John 17,3: And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Jesus is the eternal life. People try to mess around with that verse in 1. John 5,20 saying it´s talking about the father. OK, even if it were so, then it says in the beginning of the epistle that Jesus also is eternal life. They are one:

1. John 5,20: And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
1. John 1,2: For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us

Jesus says he is God:

Revelation 1,17: And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1,8: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Revelation 22,13: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Jesus says pray to me:

Jeohn 14,13-14: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

He forgave the sins of the apostels:

Colossians 3,13: Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

He forgave men sin: Mark 2,5-7 Luke 7,48 Mark 5,19 Matthew 9,3 Acts 5,31 Luke 5,20

People worshipped him.

What else can I say? Satan has started attacking God´s word in the Garden of eden and he still does it. All cults deny Chrit´s deity. Only in true christianity Jesus is God and God Almighty saved from sin by serving for us. Only in true christianity the holy spirit is given to them that call on Jesus´name for he is the one who gives it. A man without spirit cannot understand God´s wisdom. That´s why people twist around verses. People who deny Chrit´s deity always use passages while he was on earth or that talk about his submission under the will of the fathers.

Even the jews understood his claim.

John 5,18: Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 10,33: The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Yes, Jesus serves men and God. But he also said that the greatest will be the servant! What about you? Will you accept Jesus as God this life or wake up in front of his judgement seat? It will be too late by then!
You may test yourself if you are in the spirit. Confess to others:

Jesus is Lord.

1. Corinthians 12,3: Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

I will leave you with these verses:

John 5,23: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

In him, André from Berlin, Germany