The Roman Catholic Church Inserted The Trinity , The Trinity

Elijah22 · Little Guppy Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 33

The Roman Catholic Church Inserted The Trinity , The Trinity Never Existed .
The Father , Then You Have Humanity As His Children , And The Holy Ghost Are The AngelicBeings , You Are Useing 1John 5 ; 7 As If It Is Authentic When In Fact It Has Been Proven To Be A Distorted Scripture Nor Does It Exist In Any Of The Original Manuscripts I Don't Try To Discredit AnyThing Or AnyOne I Just State The Facts , And I Am Only Interested In The Facts . To Answer Your Question . When The Bible Was In Its Original Language Of Aramaic ( Hebrew ) Arabic And Galilean Arabic , The Verse 1John 5 ; 7 , That Has Become The Foundation For The 3 Beings In 1 Concept Called The Trinity DID NOT EXIST , It Also DID NOT EXIST IN GREEK , The Distortion With The Onset Of The Roman Catholic Church The Roman Catholic Inserted The Trinity Verse When They Translated The Bible From Greek To Latin I Purposely Said '' Inserted '' And Not '' Translated '' Because , As I've Already Said The Original Greek Did Not Have This Verse . HowEver , You Will Find Some Greek Translation Have Either The Whole Trinity Verse Or Only A Portion Of It , 1John 5; 7 Is Surround In Controversy Because There Are Two Versions Of This Verse Your Bibilical Scholars Say 1John 5; 7 . That Is Used In Most Bibles Today . Is Either Not The Origian Verse . Or They Say That Its Only Partially Genuine . There Have Been Many Arguments Between Scholars On This Subject When In Fact There Shouldn't Be Any Arguments Because The Original Aramaic And The Greek Manuscripts Don't Have This 1John 5 ; 7 , In It . The Problem Is They Really Don't Want To Admit That The Trinity Really Has No Basis In The Teaching Of Yashua , Making The Trinitarian Churches And Any Other Sect That Believe In This 3 In 1 Concept Obsolete , FurtherMore , In The Ancient Eastern Manusripts By George M Lamsa Which Is A Bible That Is Translated From The Original Aramaic And Syriac Language On Page 1222 , In 1John 5 ; 7 , You Will See That The Orginal Verse Says This ;...
Original Verse <> And The Spirit Testifies That That Very Spirit Is The Truth
Mistraslation <> This is he who came by water and blood , even Jesus Christ , not by water only , but water and blood , And theSpirit testifies that that very Spirt is the truth . And there are three to bear witness the Spirit and , the water and the blood ; and these three are one ,
Now , When You Read 1 John 5 ; 7 In Your Standard Bible , You Will Read This ,
1John 5 ; 7 <> For there are three that bear , Record in heaven , the father , the Word , and the holy ghost ; And these three are one . Do You See How The Verse Were Distorted ? They Are Both 1John 5 ; 7 , But They Don't Say The Same Thing ! That's Because In Your Standard Or Revised Edittion Bible , You Will Find The Original , Verse 5; 7 Has Been Actually Pushed Up To Merge With Verse 5; 6 . Now LQQk At 1John 5 ; 6 Below
'' This is he that came by water and , Blood , even Jesus Christ ; not by Water only , but by water and Blood And It Is The Spirit That Beareth Witness Because The Spirit Is Truth '' ;...The Underlined Segment Is Really The Original 1John 5 ; 7 By Combining The Original Verse 5 ;6 And 5 ; 7 Together , This Left Verse 5 ; 7 Made It Conviently Free To Insert The False '' Trinity '' Verse . Just In Case You Think I Made This Up . Clarke's Commentary Also States That In The Very Early Bibles , This Verse Didn't Exist Clarke's Commentary Says This About 1John 5 ; 7 ;... '' But It Is Likely This Verse Is Not Genuine . It Is Wanting ( Missing ) In Every M .S . ( Manuscript ) Og This Epistle Written Before The Invention Of Printing . One Expecyed . The Condex Montfortii , In '' Trinity College , Dublin ; The Others Which Omit , This Verse Amount To One Hundred And Twelve . It Is Wanting ( Missing ) In Both The Syriac . All The Arabic , Ethiopic , The Coptic , Sahidic .Armenian , Slavonian , In A Word , In All The Ancient Versions . But The Vulgate And Even Of This Version Many Of The Most Ancient And Correct , MSS . Have It Not .. It Is Wanting ( Missing ) Also In All Ancient Greek Father , And In Most Even Of The Latin So What About Those Who Say A Portion Of The Quote Is True , Then There Are Those Scholars Who That Only Part Of This Quote Is Genuine Once Again , Let's Go Back To 1John 5 ; 7 In Your Standard Bible . < '' For There Are Three That Bear Record In Heaven , The Father , The Word , And The Holy Ghost , And These Three Are One > The Underlined Part Of This Quote Is The Part That Your So - Called Scholars Say Is Genuine . Some Bibles Are Equipped With Notes And Small Commentaries To Help You OverStand The Verses You Are Reading . If You Have Such A Bible . It Will Most Likely Say The Same Thing . For Instance , On Page 1776 In The Ryrie Study Bible It Says ;
Verse7 For there are three that bear record in heaven , The father the word , and the Holy Ghost and these three are one .
Commentary 5 ; 7 - 8 Should end with the word record The remander of Verse 7 And part of Verse 8 , Are Not In Any Ancient Greek Manuscript . Only In Later Latin Manuscripts .
Now , They Say Verse 7 And Verse 8 Is Only Partially Genuine . There Are Even Some Greek Translation That Also Supports This Version , But That's Because They Were Translated From English Back Into Greek 1John 5 ; 7 Was Just Another Way To Confuse And Add Another False Sect And Belief . It Is One Of Those Things That Are Kept Quiet Because That Would Be The End Of Some People's Faith And That Is Something That People Who Promote Religion For A Profit Can't Afford To Do .

brendan · Big Guppy Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 47

A near miss is as good as a mile.....YOU GOT A BULLSEYE!!!

metothezero · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:55 pm Post subject:

Very well, 1 John 5:7 is thrown out. It will not be used. Let us try Titus 2:13, is that still in the manuscripts?
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That is absolutely absurd!

How do you know what was in the original manuscripts?

St Jerome was the one who translated the bible from the original manuscripts....i know who I would rather believe.

Tony · Growing Guppy Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 40

thunder · Lion King Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1222

A lot of people ... were raised on the trinity and need it to make the rest work.

Like tightrope walker needs a twig to help balance them self. Take it away and they immediately fall.

The difference is that the bible is completely intact with no mention of a hypothetical trinity.

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Bridget · Rattlesnake Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 443

Yes, unfortunately there were a lot of people who were raised on the trinity, but they do not need it to make the rest work.
Christianity was never based on the trinity, it is based on a man named Jesus Christ, who went through passion week receiving such cruel punishment, and then being nailed to a cross. Many people in that time frame were cruxified, none were raised from the dead. God raised Jesus from the dead Thunder, to show that we have everlasting life through Him. How does the trinity help you with that, for that is the whole basis for our faith.

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Nobby · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject:

Thunder, who is our Savior?
Who is the Holy Ghost?
Who is God the Father?
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thunder · Lion King Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1222

Jehovah became a man ... in the life of Christ and made sure an angel told His earthly parents ( Joseph and Mary ) to call Him Jesus.

They obeyed and the rest is history.

Jehovah ( God for us ) renamed Himself Jesus ( God with us ).

" I have come in my father's name," and," has given Him a name that is abover every other name," and," I and my Father are one." John 10:30

who is our Savior? Jesus
Who is the Holy Ghost? Jesus
Who is God the Father? Jesus

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FFT · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject:

golfjack · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject: reply

Thunder, you are out there in left field, which makes your other doctrine wrong.

May God bless, golfjack

thunder · Lion King Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1222

Of course ... I am wrong golf, that way you can be right.

Thats what you need, to be right, right?

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christina · Cobra Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 456

FFT · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:02 am Post subject:

I'd imagine it'd be quite difficult to ignore God simultaneously popping up in everyone's head going "yo, I'm here. Believe."
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