the world didn't end on time?

objectivist · German Shepherd Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 335

Jesus is talking of signs that will happen before the end of the world to his disciples)

(Notice: Jesus probably thought the stars were little lights attached to a solid rotating sky dome like everyone else at that time)

(Mat 24:29 NRSV) "Immediately after the suffering of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; *the stars will fall from heaven*, and the powers of heaven will be shaken.

(Mat 24:30 NRSV) Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see 'the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven' with power and great glory.

(Jesus now says to his disciples that their generation will not pass away before the end of the world)

(Mat 24:34 NRSV) Truly I tell you, *this generation will not pass away* until all these things have taken place.

(Their generation did pass away, but the world didn't end)

Just curious
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objectivist · German Shepherd Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 335

Interesting isn't it?
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Nobby · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:06 pm Post subject: Note

Just curious, when we have very dark black storm clouds how much of the sun & the moon can you see then. that is how He will darken the sun & the moon! Don't you think. Since God created the universe I believe he is able to do as He pleases. So you believe that Jesus didn't know the earth was round. Wink

If you say so.
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larryjf · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:26 pm Post subject:

In order to know what Jesus is speaking of in Verse 34 you need verse 32 (which you conveniently left out of your post)

Mat 24:32-34 (NIV)
Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

The key here is the fig tree. The fig tree represents Israel. When Israel's twigs get tender and leaves come out it is flourshing as a nation. This is the generation Jesus is speaking about, not His own generation. He is speaking of the generation of a future Israel that He describes in verse 32 - a flourishing Israel.

gswisher · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 04 Jun 2003 Posts: 421

No the world didn't end. AN age ended and the prophecy was true. Check your greek and research the destruction of Jerusalem. Usually I don't care to share these things with you, but every little nugget that contradicts the natural perspective has a hidden spiritual meaning that most Christians haven't even grasped. You need more than natural reasoning powers to do so. This is one of those instances where some natural evidence lies beneath the surface. You just don't care to look.
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Zathrus · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: the world didn't end on time?

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objectivist · German Shepherd Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 335

Awesome Smilin' Jacks' simply awesome
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Nobby · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:59 pm Post subject:

Smilin', basicly the moon is a mirror, but when the sun shines on it reflicts,
so it does shine. Ever drive at night, & have someone with their high beams in your mirrors? Tell me that they don't shine, even tho the mirrors aren't the source of the light.

Really what difference does it make? If God darkens the sun the moon will be dark also. Either you believe the bible or you don't. Which is it Question

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objectivist · German Shepherd Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 335

I would think that god would be specific
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shepreach · Cobra Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 493 Location: ga

now why would you think that someone who doesn't exist would(could?) be specific?
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RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 7005 Location: USA

You wish God would inspire someone to write something that conforms to your narrow mindset. You often look past the obvious to seek out the specifics, which do not comply to what you want them to and then claim it as error.

The moon shines, the scripture never says that it shines with its own source of light. You want us to believe that becasue scripture doesn't contain specific physics of a thing that its description of a thing is inaccurate? Foolishness.

You have never said 'look at that beautiful sunset' or 'wow, what a lovely sunrise', you've never said or thought something like that? Very few people could say they have not, truthfully. Even physicists and astronomers, and others in various scientific fields who know the workings of the planets, stars and natural satellites, speak of sunsets and sunrises, and moonshine, and starshine.

You look for errors so earnestly that you stumble over yourself and you fail to look for what you really should be looking for.
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objectivist · German Shepherd Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 335

It was sarcasim. By the way.

phew!
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