Blood Transfusion !

Nobby · Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:50 am Post subject: Blood Transfusion !

A lady e-mailed me: I have a friend who is Jehovah's witness and she is losing her baby and will not allow them to give her blood...do you have any scriptures on this.
Please help if you can. Sad

Nobby

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6908 Location: USA

Sorry Nobby, the only references I can offer are the verses that began the JW's mistaken ban on blood products.

I doubt it would help to point out that their organization has based their position on a warped interpretation of partial scripture. I know it has not helped in my prior conversations with JW's.
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Sharona · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:09 am Post subject: blood transfusions

Now that the WTBTS allows the transfusion of cow's blood (Hemopure) instead of human blood, do you think that they will retract this also in light of Mad Cow Disease being present in the USA? Wouldn't look good for JW's to be the only one's getting JCD from cows. Embarassed

mijt1 · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:46 am Post subject: Re: blood transfusions

apostonaut · Tadpole Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 17 Location: Canada

Hi Mick,

I ran a google search (Jehovah's Witnesses + Hemopure). This page came up:

http://www.ajwrb.org/basics/hemopure.shtml

Kind regards,

Ap.

apostonaut · Tadpole Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 17 Location: Canada

Hi Nobby,

I would point out that there was a time when the Watchtower Society forbade the transfusion of any and all "parts" of blood. Now they permit transfusion of many parts of blood - but not whole blood. I wonder if there are statistics on the number of Jehovah's Witnesses who died because the WTS forbade them a transfusion of "parts" of blood that they now allow. Who is to say that eventually they will not lift the ban altogether? I remember reading they did the same with organ transplants. Again, how many Witnesses died because the Society forbade organ transplants (which they also said was "cannibalism"), yet now they allow them?

What a shame to lose a life only to have those life-taking doctrines changed down the road. Imagine the grief of a parent who allowed their child to die under the Society's rigid doctrinal position on blood and organ transplants only to have those bans lifted after the death of the child.

Kind regards,

Ap.

Nobby · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 3:39 pm Post subject: Blood Transfusion !

Hi apostonaut,
Yes it is such a shame that so many people had to die when God has put help there for them in the form as blood transfusion & organ transplants.
Which have saved many lives. Sad

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RAFAEL_THE_ANGEL · Not So Newbie Joined: 31 Dec 2003 Posts: 8

Alright so check it out: God tells Noah not to eat the blood of animals because it's the 'life' (or 'soul'), and that is a sin. So if you were to 'eat' the blood of a man would be no better than eating the blood of an animal. Essentially, since blood is 'life' of a 'soul', this would mean you would have something inside you that is not yours, but 'foreign'. You might think of it as a weird form of cannibalism, except without killing the other person. It is also considered 'unclean', just like anything where blood is involved, you gotta wash up. Putting blood of someone else directly in you, well it doesn't get any uncleaner than that. You must be clean and pure in the eyes of God to be saved. And scientifically speaking, do you really want somebody else's DNA floating around in you? If someone were to take a blood sample of you to determine if you were the father a child, how would you know the sample is gonna be accurate? Did God intend for us mix our blood together with someone else's? Are we cheating 'our time' if you are to believe that God has a plan for us all? (Not precisely a concept JW's backup btw, on pre-destination) Just because we can, should we? We can clone people, but should we do it? These are serious questions that deal with who we are and what we are and our relationship with our Creator.

Is it a sad thing that a person will die if they don't receive a blood transfusion? Yes, I certainly think so. And JW's don't FORCE someone not to receive a blood transfusion, they will not be disfellowshipped if they do (as far as I know). The choice is strictly theirs alone to make. Would I make the same choice if I was given it? I'm not sure I could say I would. I think what matters is how comfortable you are with your salvation that you have found in Christ. If Christ is truthful and not a crazy lying lunatic, then maybe we shouldn't fear death as much as a godless person might... call it, 'an act of faith'. You might even call it a 'leap of faith'. I'll tell you this much if God says he'll catch me, you better believe I will jump if he asks me. There is not one word that God has said in vain, for if this were true the entire structure of Christian faith would crumble into nothing.

God cannot lie. If God doesn't lie and he says he'll save me, then I am saved, why fear death? I know a woman who refused a blood transfusion, the doctors of course told her she would certainly die, but she lived, for many more years I might add, until a ripe old age. The question is purity of the soul and of the spirit. You must remember our souls are flesh (Gen: Adam became a living soul), and with it comes the divine. Who are we to meddle with God's holy designs?

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6908 Location: USA

I'm reminded of those patients earlier in the last century who refused blood transfusions unless the doctors could ensure it was the right 'color' blood.

Nobby · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:25 am Post subject:

apostonaut · Tadpole Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 17 Location: Canada

Hi,

franksinatra · Big Hamster Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 93

Liars and slanderers beware! The wrath of God is coming. "The false witness will not be free from punishment, and he that launches forth lies will perish." (Prov 19:9)

Where do these knuckleheads get their info? Do they not know what apostasy is - as close to a sin against the holy spirit as I can imagine?

I have read several lies in this thread, even attempting to cite WBTS literature as its source. If you want the truth, read the literature and not the venom of those with an axe to grind.

But then that might lead some where they're not interested in going.

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6908 Location: USA

Why don't you tell us the truth? You obviously believe what the WTBS tells you to believe, so share it with us.
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